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Post by fretslider on Jan 11, 2019 5:30:31 GMT -5
Just say no to Veganuary Veganism isn’t a diet – it’s a cult of purity. In case you hadn’t noticed, this January has otherwise gone by the name of ‘Veganuary’, a month in which we have been exhorted to forgo the consumption and usage of animal products. Or perhaps that should be ‘Smuguary’, ‘Selfrightuary’, ‘Egotistuary’, or any other comparably ungainly neologism. Because such terms would encapsulate the fad du jour, veganism: a narcissistic cult and exercise in self-regard in an age of identity politics. One report from Plymouth this month betrays the essence of the movement. One 23-year-old declared himself all in a swoon after a branch of Pizza Hut mistakenly served him dairy ice-cream purporting to be vegan-friendly. ‘This is appalling. I am outraged, heartbroken in fact. I feel like my lifestyle has been mocked. It’s a mistake that shouldn’t have happened’, said the vegan. Pizza Hut responded with a grovelling apology. The indignancy on display by our vegan is not incidental, nor is it unusual. It is intrinsic to a movement that has appropriated and commandeered the ethics of similarly superior and sanctimonious anti-human worldviews: the animal-rights movement and militant environmentalism. Veganism has become a kind of umbrella alliance of malcontents who sermonise that eating or wearing animals is not only cruel, but also a violation of the rights and dignity of non-human beings, while also being bad for the planet. Vegans can thus denounce eating eggs, drinking milk or wearing wool as not just wrong, but thrice-times evil. This is why vegans are not content quietly to forego certain foods, as is the case with most civilised vegetarians, but feel the need to evangelise about why they do so, condemning as wicked and immoral those deviants who don’t. One means to demonise the impure, demonic unbeliever is the street protest, usually against shops that sell fur, where activists repeat slogans such as ‘compassion not fashion’. On New Year’s Day, animal-rights activists in Toronto protested against newly inaugurated Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro, who plans to privatise parts of the Amazon rainforest. They staged a ‘die-in’ near the Brazilian consulate, performing a play called ‘If the Amazon rainforest dies, we all die!’. A similar tactic is plain hooliganism. ‘They are serving many animals in that restaurant, many animals that did not want to die thrashed and screamed for their lives’, pronounced one protester in October, when he and other animal-rights activists stormed a restaurant in Perth, Western Australia. Militant vegans stalk the internet looking to ‘meat-shame’ clean-eating and vegetarian food bloggers who post pictures of recipes containing eggs or milk. They are singled out on account of their moral vacillation. With that dreadful joy of vengeance, these outrage goblins declare, ‘My food didn’t die screaming’ or ‘Fur is worn by heartless hags’. Humour is not tolerated by these believers, as was made evident when Waitrose Food magazine sacked its editor, William Sitwell, after he made jokes about killing vegans. Nor do they have a sense of their own ridiculousness, as we saw last month when PETA issued a list of animal-friendly alternatives to traditional sayings, such as replacing ‘kill two birds with one stone’ with ‘feed two birds with one scone’. Many of you may have been tempted to take up the ‘Veganuary’ challenge on ethical or dietary grounds. This is an error. Both criteria can be satisfied by simply going vegetarian: you would have the satisfaction of knowing that your diet doesn’t involve the death of animals, and still easily be able get all the protein and calcium your body needs. A vegan diet, on the other hand, isn’t good for body or soul. It will only turn you into a coffin-faced bore. But that’s never been the point of it. Being a vegan is foremost about proving that you are a purer, morally better person than your neighbour, and letting her know it. It’s a cult of self-worship. www.spiked-online.com/2019/01/11/just-say-no-to-veganuary/How do you know if somebody is a vegan? They tell you. |
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Post by mouse on Jan 11, 2019 6:25:15 GMT -5
I just lurve my meat.. long as its cooked properly and served with lashings of meaty gravey
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Post by beth on Jan 11, 2019 10:19:07 GMT -5
I have a friend whose little girl (just turned 6) read about vegetarians vs meat eaters in a book at the library and made up her mind with no encouragement to give up meat. She told her parents they (chicken nuggets) were made out of her "little friends" and she would not eat them. She does eat eggs and cheese and milk but otherwise - no meat. Her family has learned they can order grilled cheese and egg on biscuit to go, so that's what they get for her when they get kiddy meals with a prize inside for her and her sister a couple of times a month for a treat. If their mother serves casserole for dinner, she will use a fork to separate the meat and put it to one side while eating the rest. Her pediatrician tells them to keep doing what they're doing as her health is excellent.
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Post by mouse on Jan 18, 2019 6:32:03 GMT -5
grandson 2 went vegie for a couple of days after which he returned to normal.. it was the steak and onions and rich gravey he couldn't resist...compared to his cheese on toast it was a certainty he would fall at the first waft of sizzling onions
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Post by toby1 on Jan 19, 2019 14:46:24 GMT -5
I remember seeing some rake-figured vegan biddy railing against Nigella Lawson and her cookery programme in which eggs were broken, milk was poured and meat was cooked. Nigella is a heathy looking Woman with a lovely chest, the Vegan biddy had almost no chest and was always scowling. I know which diet I prefer !!
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Post by ladylinda on Feb 1, 2019 12:01:31 GMT -5
There are certain essential amino-acids that can ONLY be found in meat.
Frankly, veganism is a cult and I've never met a healthy vegan in my life (last weekend I met one at a friend's birthday party so the memory is fresh in my mind!)
A balanced diet is what's healthy for us.
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Post by fretslider on Feb 2, 2019 6:34:29 GMT -5
There are certain essential amino-acids that can ONLY be found in meat. Frankly, veganism is a cult and I've never met a healthy vegan in my life (last weekend I met one at a friend's birthday party so the memory is fresh in my mind!) A balanced diet is what's healthy for us. Or a little of what you fancy does you good. You might find this article interesting... What’s Really Behind The Plant-Based Diet Agenda?there are some interesting facets of information that can be gleaned by analysing the EAT-Lancet Commission’s posturing and the alternative protein movement.
The anti-animal agriculture narrative and plant-based diet agenda combines political ideology and commercial interests. This “movement” is insidious, unsavoury, and cannot be ignored by those who value liberty and consumer choice.wattsupwiththat.com/2019/02/01/whats-really-behind-the-plant-based-diet-agenda/Featuring tasty dishes like Victory stew... When Winston is queuing in the canteen, food trays are pushed beneath the grille: “onto each was dumped swiftly the regulation lunch – a metal pannikin of pinkish-grey stew, a hunk of bread, a cube of cheese, a mug of milkless Victory Coffee, and one saccharine tablet.” He began swallowing spoonfuls of the stew, which, in among its general sloppiness, had cubes of spongy pinkish stuff which was probably a preparation of meat.”Hmm, prepared from what? Soylent Green, anyone? |
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Post by Chelonian on Feb 28, 2020 9:06:27 GMT -5
There are certain essential amino-acids that can ONLY be found in meat. Frankly, veganism is a cult and I've never met a healthy vegan in my life (last weekend I met one at a friend's birthday party so the memory is fresh in my mind!) A balanced diet is what's healthy for us. All nutrients required for human health can be found in plant products. Not so for animal products which do not contain some nutrients humans need. It's not a cult. It's about caring about the plight of species other than ourselves and caring for the planet we live on. I bet you've never met any vegans personally and are just using the cliche line so many anti vegans use. I've been vegan 15 years. Before I developed fibromyalgia (which is unrelated to diet and anyone can develop regardless of what they eat) I was fit and healthy - my bloods came back with normal levels of nutrients. I would still be if I hadn't got this god awful illness. There are gold medal athletes who follow vegan diets/lifestyles. If it was such an unhealthy diet they'd not win gold medals and vegans in general would be dropping dead all over the place. Shaolin monks are another group that follow a no animal products diet. They are world renowned for their martial arts capabilities. |
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Post by Jessiealan on Feb 28, 2020 22:53:35 GMT -5
There are certain essential amino-acids that can ONLY be found in meat. Frankly, veganism is a cult and I've never met a healthy vegan in my life (last weekend I met one at a friend's birthday party so the memory is fresh in my mind!) A balanced diet is what's healthy for us. All nutrients required for human health can be found in plant products. Not so for animal products which do not contain some nutrients humans need. It's not a cult. It's about caring about the plight of species other than ourselves and caring for the planet we live on. I bet you've never met any vegans personally and are just using the cliche line so many anti vegans use. I've been vegan 15 years. Before I developed fibromyalgia (which is unrelated to diet and anyone can develop regardless of what they eat) I was fit and healthy - my bloods came back with normal levels of nutrients. I would still be if I hadn't got this god awful illness. There are gold medal athletes who follow vegan diets/lifestyles. If it was such an unhealthy diet they'd not win gold medals and vegans in general would be dropping dead all over the place. Shaolin monks are another group that follow a no animal products diet. They are world renowned for their martial arts capabilities. That is basically true but homo sapiens are meat eaters from 'way back and it is a preference for most. I do not see why anyone would take up a stance to criticize vegans, however. Live and letlive. |
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Post by Jessiealan on Feb 28, 2020 22:59:35 GMT -5
Fret, I am interested in why you would concern yourself about how other people eat.
Stay with your own preference and let others do the same.
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Post by mouse on Feb 29, 2020 4:01:42 GMT -5
Fret, I am interested in why you would concern yourself about how other people eat. Stay with your own preference and let others do the same. one of the big problems is that people do not leave others alone.... keep being told we must stop eating meat to save the planet... frankly when it comes to saving the planet every thing which is enjoyable seems to be a sin.... long live meat eaters say I .. nice bit of roast lamb... with Rosemary and a delicious gravey.. not a poncy ju..but a good meat gravey…. or a melt in the mouth steak with crisp asparagus.....yummmy |
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Post by ladylinda on Mar 17, 2020 19:15:30 GMT -5
There are certain essential amino-acids that can ONLY be found in meat. Frankly, veganism is a cult and I've never met a healthy vegan in my life (last weekend I met one at a friend's birthday party so the memory is fresh in my mind!) A balanced diet is what's healthy for us. All nutrients required for human health can be found in plant products. Not so for animal products which do not contain some nutrients humans need. It's not a cult. It's about caring about the plight of species other than ourselves and caring for the planet we live on. I bet you've never met any vegans personally and are just using the cliche line so many anti vegans use. I've been vegan 15 years. Before I developed fibromyalgia (which is unrelated to diet and anyone can develop regardless of what they eat) I was fit and healthy - my bloods came back with normal levels of nutrients. I would still be if I hadn't got this god awful illness. There are gold medal athletes who follow vegan diets/lifestyles. If it was such an unhealthy diet they'd not win gold medals and vegans in general would be dropping dead all over the place. Shaolin monks are another group that follow a no animal products diet. They are world renowned for their martial arts capabilities. You make a lot of assumptions; I live in London and I've met LOADS of vegans. They tend to be self-righteous and intolerant so it's no surprise you seem to be one. I know you don't like FACTS that refute your prejudices but it IS a fact that certain essential amino-acids can ONLY be found in meat. You know, I don't condemn people who want to follow a vegan diet. But I DO condemn people who assume that anyone who disagrees with them must be stupid or evil. I vividly remember a discussion - well, more of a diatribe on THEIR part - with two vegans who claimed that Hitler and Himmler were 'very highly spiritually evolved people' because of their avoidance of animal products. That's the kind of crap that puts people's backs up. |
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Post by Sysop3 on Mar 17, 2020 21:48:01 GMT -5
My sister's kids, age 10 and 12 are vegetarians. It was their choice and their parents tried to discourage them. The only meat they eat is chicken nuggets about once a week. They are both very healthy and are not often sick.
I tell them they don't know what their missing, but they just laugh and go their own way.
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Post by fretslider on Apr 4, 2020 5:50:46 GMT -5
My sister's kids, age 10 and 12 are vegetarians. It was their choice and their parents tried to discourage them. The only meat they eat is chicken nuggets about once a week. They are both very healthy and are not often sick. I tell them they don't know what their missing, but they just laugh and go their own way. If they are eating any meat, you can't really describe them as vegetarian. Are they willing to forgo the chicken? |
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