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Post by Sysop3 on Jul 10, 2018 18:51:12 GMT -5
I don't want to see this happen but if he is ever successful, it will cost him the election. N)The Trump administration just halted a key set of payments to Obamacare insurers, but it's consumers who could wind up having to foot the bill. That's because the federal government won't distribute $10.4 billion it was expected to give insurers this fall under the Affordable Care Act's risk adjustment program. The administration said Saturday that it would temporarily suspend the payments because a federal judge earlier this year ruled the program's formula was flawed. Insurers rely on the funding, which serves as a backstop for those who wind up with a high share of costly enrollees. Under the risk adjustment program, insurers with healthier policyholders contribute money, which is then divvied up among carriers with sicker ones. It's the only remaining risk mitigation program in Obamacare. The other two, which were designed to last only three years, ended after 2016. The administration's latest effort to undermine the Affordable Care Act comes at a particularly sensitive time for insurers. They are now deciding which exchanges they will participate in next year and what premiums they'll charge. Having a risk adjustment program factors into these calculations. "This action will significantly increase 2019 premiums for millions of individuals and small business owners and could result in far fewer health plan choices," said Scott Serota, CEO of the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, which represents 36 independent insurers, many of whom are key players on the exchanges. "It will undermine Americans' access to affordable coverage, particularly those who need medical care the most." Many carriers have already filed preliminary rate requests with state regulators -- with some asking for double-digit hikes to shield themselves from other actions the administration and Congress have taken. Insurers are contending with the uncertainty caused by Congress' elimination of the individual mandate penalty, which takes effect next year, and with the Trump administration's broadening of two alternatives to Obamacare that could siphon off younger and healthier enrollees. Even with these concerns, insurers are more confident about participating in Obamacare. Many have started making a profit and some are expanding their involvement for 2019, a marked change from this time last year, when several carriers said they were going to pull out of the exchanges for 2018. Now that the risk adjustment payments are on hold, some state regulators fear that insurers could become less willing to participate in certain communities. "Without this program, insurers might have taken on less risk in the market, especially in rural counties," said Mike Kreidler, Washington state's insurance commissioner. more www.cnn.com/2018/07/10/politics/trump-obamacare-insurers/index.html
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Post by josephdphillips on Jul 11, 2018 8:49:48 GMT -5
I don't want to see this happen but if he is ever successful, it will cost him the election. What you're smoking -- is it legal? President Trump's re-election is a foregone conclusion, partly because of his efforts to kill Obamacare. Trump is a man who keeps his promises to the electorate. Only 2,385 days left for you folks :)
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Post by annaj26 on Jul 11, 2018 10:20:36 GMT -5
I don't want to see this happen but if he is ever successful, it will cost him the election. What you're smoking -- is it legal? President Trump's re-election is a foregone conclusion, partly because of his efforts to kill Obamacare. Trump is a man who keeps his promises to the electorate. Only 2,385 days left for you folks Joe, you come across like a wing nut. That's because you measure everything political by California standards. I work in a hospital in a Trump state. A lot of Trump's base were mixed up for a while and thought ACA was not the same thing a Obama Care. Well, they've made a lot of progress. In the Trump base, many depend on Obama Care and many more have family members, especially older relatives, and friends who depend on it, literally, for their lives. The minute that those important programs start dropping out, they will KNOW IT and, trust me, Trump will lose a lot of votes for good reason. Trump does not give a crap, he just wants personal credit for providing health care. Try to see that.
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Post by josephdphillips on Jul 11, 2018 11:16:52 GMT -5
I work in a hospital in a Trump state. A lot of Trump's base were mixed up for a while and thought ACA was not the same thing a Obama Care. Well, they've made a lot of progress. In the Trump base, many depend on Obama Care and many more have family members, especially older relatives, and friends who depend on it, literally, for their lives. They will die off or become bankrupt, thanks to astronomical deductibles, premiums and high out-of-pocket requirements, particularly since the penalties for not having health insurance stopped in early 2017. By the time Trump's successor is inaugurated in 2025, the ACA will be nothing more than a distant, painful memory.
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Post by Jessiealan on Jul 11, 2018 19:06:26 GMT -5
I work in a hospital in a Trump state. A lot of Trump's base were mixed up for a while and thought ACA was not the same thing a Obama Care. Well, they've made a lot of progress. In the Trump base, many depend on Obama Care and many more have family members, especially older relatives, and friends who depend on it, literally, for their lives. They will die off or become bankrupt, thanks to astronomical deductibles, premiums and high out-of-pocket requirements, particularly since the penalties for not having health insurance stopped in early 2017. By the time Trump's successor is inaugurated in 2025, the ACA will be nothing more than a distant, painful memory. Joe, Anna is more knowledgeable than you about this when it comes to who benefits and who does not. From your point of view, I suppose the elderly and poor and needy will be ignored until they all conk off, and they will not be replaced by others like themselves. That is ridiculous. And the idea families do not care about others in illness is stupid. For your family's sake, I hope you do not have that attitude in real life.
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Post by mouse on Jul 12, 2018 5:17:21 GMT -5
They will die off or become bankrupt, thanks to astronomical deductibles, premiums and high out-of-pocket requirements, particularly since the penalties for not having health insurance stopped in early 2017. By the time Trump's successor is inaugurated in 2025, the ACA will be nothing more than a distant, painful memory. Joe, Anna is more knowledgeable than you about this when it comes to who benefits and who does not. From your point of view, I suppose the elderly and poor and needy will be ignored until they all conk off, and they will not be replaced by others like themselves. That is ridiculous. And the idea families do not care about others in illness is stupid. For your family's sake, I hope you do not have that attitude in real life. its a great conflict of interests isn't it.. being part of a true capitalist society where every thing is about profit and making money and any forms of socialism are decried..... exactly what happens to those who do not make the grade.. cannot pay the monies needed .,... it begs the question who is responsible for those who fail to pay their way..... it is evil socialism to expect others to subzidise the sick/old/uneducated/poverty striken .. and yet of others charity is not frowned upon ..... it would be morally wrong to just let them fester.....every thing seems to be at odds with every thing else
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Post by josephdphillips on Jul 12, 2018 9:03:12 GMT -5
Anna is more knowledgeable than you about this when it comes to who benefits and who does not. And yet she has probably never shopped for Obamacare, as I have. She apparently thinks driving people into medical bankruptcy is OK because at least they have "coverage," even if it's worthless. The ACA is nothing but a giveaway to the insurance companies, and the sooner it dies its necessary death, the better.
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Post by Sysop3 on Jul 12, 2018 14:25:24 GMT -5
Then somebody had better educate the public, Joe. I'd say the vast majority would not be abole to get medical assistance without medicare and medicaid.
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Post by josephdphillips on Jul 12, 2018 17:40:20 GMT -5
I'd say the vast majority would not be abole to get medical assistance without medicare and medicaid. Which is nothing new. The "ACA" has done nothing significant to improve health outcomes. It's simply a boon to the insurance companies -- they are now able to soak the middle class for $10,000+ per family, which they weren't able to do before, thanks to high deductibles and OOP minimums. Health "coverage" isn't health "care" and health "insurance" doesn't "cover" anything until you first pay the devil (the insurance company) his due.
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Post by Dex on Aug 2, 2018 20:42:14 GMT -5
Many families, with and without children, depend on the ACA. Don't knock it, it's the best we have at this time, and Trump is trying to kill it. Four US cities sue over Trump ‘sabotage’ of Obamacare REUTERS Four major U.S. cities filed a lawsuit on Thursday contending that President Donald Trump’s administration is unconstitutionally seeking to undermine Obamacare by failing to faithfully execute the healthcare law. The complaint in federal court in Baltimore, filed by the cities of Baltimore, Chicago, Cincinnati and Columbus, Ohio, alleged that the Republican president is “waging a relentless campaign to sabotage and, ultimately, to nullify the law.” The lawsuit argued that because Congress has not repealed the Affordable Care Act, as Obamacare is legally known, the U.S. Constitution requires Trump to take care that it, like other laws, is “faithfully executed.” The cities in Ohio, Maryland and Illinois contended that the administration’s actions are forcing them to spend more on uncompensated care for their residents by driving up the rate of uninsured individuals. The complaint said Trump has defied his obligation to uphold the law by taking executive actions aimed at undercutting it after he failed to get Congress to repeal the law, as he promised to do in his campaign. “By actively and avowedly wielding executive authority to sabotage the ACA, defendants are not acting in good faith; instead, they have usurped Congress’s lawmaking function, and they are violating the Constitution,” the complaint said. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Affordable Care Act was enacted in 2010 under Democratic President Barack Obama. The law extended health insurance to some 20 million Americans. The lawsuit cited several actions Trump’s administration has taken to undercut Obamacare. For instance, it pointed to cuts to funding for groups that help people get insurance through the law. It also noted that the administration last year said it would halt so-called cost-sharing payments, which offset some out-of-pocket healthcare costs for low-income patients. In support of its claims that Trump has sabotaged the law, the complaint cites statements by the president like “we are getting rid of Obamacare” and “essentially, we have gotten rid of it.” The cities also cited a recent rule adopted by the U.S. Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services in April that the lawsuit said would increase the cost of health coverage and impose new barriers to enrollment. The lawsuit said that rule lacked adequate justification and violated the text of the Affordable Care Act itself. Reporting by Nate Raymond in Boston; Editing by David Gregorio Don't let Silicon Valley control what you see. Get more stories like this in your inbox, every day. Email Address www.rawstory.com/2018/08/four-us-cities-sue-trump-sabotage-obamacare/
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