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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 23:44:54 GMT -5
picked up another book on Kindle....looks to be interesting.
It had good reviews so we shall see.
9 Presidents Who Screwed Up America: And Four Who Tried to Save Her by Brion McClanahan
Of the forty-four presidents who have led the United States, nine made mistakes that permanently scarred the nation.
Which nine?
Brion McClanahan, author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Founding Fathers and The Founding Fathers' Guide to the Constitution, will surprise readers with his list, which he supports with exhaustive and entertaining evidence.
9 Presidents Who Screwed Up America is a new look back at American history that unabashedly places blame for our nation's current problems on the backs of nine very flawed men.
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Post by josephdphillips on Jul 7, 2017 7:42:53 GMT -5
I reject the entire premise. People get the government they deserve. Presidents don't "screw up" anything. The electorate does.
It's not up to the U.S. president to "save" anything anyway. His job is to fulfill his Constitutional mandate -- period.
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Post by men an tol on Jul 7, 2017 15:23:50 GMT -5
picked up another book on Kindle....looks to be interesting. It had good reviews so we shall see. 9 Presidents Who Screwed Up America: And Four Who Tried to Save Her by Brion McClanahan Of the forty-four presidents who have led the United States, nine made mistakes that permanently scarred the nation. Which nine? Brion McClanahan, author of The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Founding Fathers and The Founding Fathers' Guide to the Constitution, will surprise readers with his list, which he supports with exhaustive and entertaining evidence. 9 Presidents Who Screwed Up America is a new look back at American history that unabashedly places blame for our nation's current problems on the backs of nine very flawed men. Short of entering an intense study of the Constitution of the United States, the works of Professor Brion McClanahan will provide a solid understanding of the Constitution as written and ratified. And this book is a pretty good way to begin this learning. Here he easily demonstrates how these Presidents (at least these Presidents in particular) have acted outside the limitations of their office and have not adhere to their Oath of Office. Moreover, that by taking these acts these Presidents should have been impeached. These Presidents are by name: Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and Barack Obama. Many people will be shocked as Professor McClanahan lays his case out in this book, but if approached with an open mind likely the reader will gravitate to his other books. If that is not enough then they may try the works of Professor Randy Barnett, or even go to the WEB site of Hills Dale College and take the ‘free’ on courses addressing the Constitution as designed and ratified by the Founders. But starting with this book is an easy way into the subject of the Constitution. |
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Post by ladylinda on Jul 7, 2017 17:07:12 GMT -5
Well, he forgot to mention John Adams (apart from his other faults the inventor of the 'spoils system,' John Tyler, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Rutherford Hayes, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Ronald Reagan and both Bushes.
Truman's presidency was largely dominated by total inaction domestically and being lured into the Korean War. Other than that he did very little so hardly acted unconstitutionally.
And if you take the view about acting beyond powers (which is arguable in any case) you've got to include James Monroe, Ulysses Grant, Benjamin Harrison, William McKinley and Dwight Eisenhower as well.
But basically he is clearly guilty (like so many extremists) of selective indignation. I notice that either he or his parents could not spell the name Brian so he or they are either semi-literate or (more probably) pretentious poseurs.
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Post by men an tol on Jul 7, 2017 18:02:20 GMT -5
Well, he forgot to mention John Adams (apart from his other faults the inventor of the 'spoils system,' John Tyler, Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Rutherford Hayes, Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Ronald Reagan and both Bushes. Truman's presidency was largely dominated by total inaction domestically and being lured into the Korean War. Other than that he did very little so hardly acted unconstitutionally. And if you take the view about acting beyond powers (which is arguable in any case) you've got to include James Monroe, Ulysses Grant, Benjamin Harrison, William McKinley and Dwight Eisenhower as well. But basically he is clearly guilty (like so many extremists) of selective indignation. I notice that either he or his parents could not spell the name Brian so he or they are either semi-literate or (more probably) pretentious poseurs. Come now Lady Linda. These were the nine he picked who went so far in going outside of their roles and their Oath of Office, that their acts changed the nation. He also States that most presidents did so but these nine were the worse. Even so, he also notes that people will find his choices something with which they strongly disagree. His primary point in my opinion, is that most people do not judge Presidents by the degree that they follow the Constitution, but rather by the way they are forceful as well as enacting things outside of their Constitutional limits. In fact, most people do not consider the Constitution as being important and many simply disregard it and that will eventually be our downfall. I didn’t realize that we judge someone’s credibility by the way their name is spelled. If that is to now be the standard I suggest that we wear armor as the environment here will become near toxic. |
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Post by annaj26 on Jul 7, 2017 18:37:56 GMT -5
I don't see how you can discuss this book without reading it. You guys are taking your preformed opinions and using them to presume you know what it's all about. Get a Kindle copy and at least give it a quick read. THEN, the thread will be worth posting to and reading.
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Post by men an tol on Jul 7, 2017 20:05:32 GMT -5
I don't see how you can discuss this book without reading it. You guys are taking your preformed opinions and using them to presume you know what it's all about. Get a Kindle copy and at least give it a quick read. THEN, the thread will be worth posting to and reading. Anna, thank you for the suggestion, but I already have some of his books. He presents an interesting perspective on the Colonies (come States) their individual Constitutions and their relationships to the British Crown and the reasons for resisting the Crown and Parliament. He also presents his review of other authors as well as his opinion of Hills Dale College and their courses pointing to what agrees with and with what he disagrees. His books are well worth acquiring as he provides a view of the Constitution not often looked at. |
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Post by beth on Jul 8, 2017 10:12:55 GMT -5
I don't see how you can discuss this book without reading it. You guys are taking your preformed opinions and using them to presume you know what it's all about. Get a Kindle copy and at least give it a quick read. THEN, the thread will be worth posting to and reading. Anna, thank you for the suggestion, but I already have some of his books. He presents an interesting perspective on the Colonies (come States) their individual Constitutions and their relationships to the British Crown and the reasons for resisting the Crown and Parliament. He also presents his review of other authors as well as his opinion of Hills Dale College and their courses pointing to what agrees with and with what he disagrees. His books are well worth acquiring as he provides a view of the Constitution not often looked at. That's good, Randy, makes you a step or two ahead of the rest. Now, if others will give the book a look, it can become a conversation.  |
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Post by men an tol on Jul 8, 2017 13:29:09 GMT -5
Anna, thank you for the suggestion, but I already have some of his books. He presents an interesting perspective on the Colonies (come States) their individual Constitutions and their relationships to the British Crown and the reasons for resisting the Crown and Parliament. He also presents his review of other authors as well as his opinion of Hills Dale College and their courses pointing to what agrees with and with what he disagrees. His books are well worth acquiring as he provides a view of the Constitution not often looked at. That's good, Randy, makes you a step or two ahead of the rest. Now, if others will give the book a look, it can become a conversation. Yes Beth, we already have some good comments and Chefmate should be commended for starting this by recommending the book. As mentioned by this author in this book, he has a view that has become (at least to some degree) as being out of date. And yet, during the times of the debates on Constitutional ratification, it was anything but dated. Joseph (I think) also has a good point on the ability of a President to change directions, at least with the President doing it all on his own. If change occurs it is most likely due to an overall change in how the populace sees things. As with most leaders (including the private sector) the personality of the President and strength of character, focuses direction but usually responding to existing public desires. President Lincoln is a good example, I suggest that he could not have developed the force of the North for the Civil War unless the public was already leaning that way. Since the forces in the public had already been building for many years President Lincoln’s efforts found fertile ground. Even so, I expect that few (including President Lincoln) would have anticipated such a major change in the Constitution. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 15:15:50 GMT -5
That's good, Randy, makes you a step or two ahead of the rest. Now, if others will give the book a look, it can become a conversation. Yes Beth, we already have some good comments and Chefmate should be commended for starting this by recommending the book. As mentioned by this author in this book, he has a view that has become (at least to some degree) as being out of date. And yet, during the times of the debates on Constitutional ratification, it was anything but dated. Joseph (I think) also has a good point on the ability of a President to change directions, at least with the President doing it all on his own. If change occurs it is most likely due to an overall change in how the populace sees things. As with most leaders (including the private sector) the personality of the President and strength of character, focuses direction but usually responding to existing public desires. President Lincoln is a good example, I suggest that he could not have developed the force of the North for the Civil War unless the public was already leaning that way. Since the forces in the public had already been building for many years President Lincoln’s efforts found fertile ground. Even so, I expect that few (including President Lincoln) would have anticipated such a major change in the Constitution. I was hoping I made a good choice and since I trust your judgement in most areas, I feel I made a good choice. My money for books is very limited so I hate buying something that isn't at all interesting. I haven't even started the book!!!! Right now I have nine books in Kindle....mostly are Christian books by John Flavel or other trustee authors...I am amazed how well I'm liking the late 1800's preachers and a few Puritans. |
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Post by Jessiealan on Jul 8, 2017 19:06:22 GMT -5
I think, perhaps, discussing a book is a way to discuss politics without seeming to be too personally involved. Not a bad idea. Chef, can you send me a link to where you bought the book? I may as well get a copy and be prepared. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 19:48:29 GMT -5
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