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Post by mouse on Aug 26, 2016 4:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by mouse on Aug 26, 2016 4:57:29 GMT -5
frankly I don't know what all the fuss is about...afterall there are many muslim countries[and some non muslim countries] where non muslims have to accept their rules and regulation.....so what so wrong about expecting muslims to obey other countries rules and regulation....
France and its people should have the right to say what is and what is not acceptable in France..their country their rules
people have the choice to avoid Frencg resorts if they feel so strongly...no body compels them to go to the beach or even be in France..if they don't like it there are plenty of muslim countries with beaches
as for the burkini...its an ugly looking garment nearly but not quite as bad as the burkha...a walking political statement.....
there was a time not long ago where one never saw a burkha ..except perhaps places like Harrods and other high end shops where visiting arabs liked to shop...
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Post by apple on Aug 26, 2016 11:21:05 GMT -5
Much ado about nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 14:27:40 GMT -5
PARIS (AP) — France's top administrative court overturned a ban on burkinis in a Mediterranean town, in a decision Friday that should set legal precedent regarding a swimsuit crackdown that has divided the country and provoked shock around the world.
The ruling by the Council of State Friday specifically concerns a ban on the Muslim garment in the Riviera town of Villeneuve-Loubet, but the binding decision is expected to impact all the 30 or so French resort municipalities that have issued similar decrees.
The bans grew increasingly controversial as images circulated online of some Muslim women being ordered to remove body-concealing garments on French Riviera beaches.
Lawyers for a human rights group and a Muslim collective challenged the legality of the ban to the top court, saying the orders infringe basic freedoms and that mayors have overstepped their powers by telling women what to wear on beaches.
Mayors had cited multiple reasons for the bans, including security after a string of Islamic extremist attacks, risk to public order, and France's strict rules on secularism in public life.
The Council of State ruled that, "The emotion and concerns arising from the terrorist attacks, notably the one perpetrated in Nice on July 14, cannot suffice to justify in law the contested prohibition measure."
It ruled that the mayor of Villeuneuve-Loubet overstepped his powers by enacting measures that are not justified by "proven risks of disruptions to public order nor, moreover, on reasons of hygiene or decency."
"The contested decree has thus brought a serious and manifestly illegal infringement on basic freedoms such as freedom to come and go, freedom of conscience and personal freedom," the ruling reads.
Lawyer Patrice Spinosi, representing the Human Rights League, told reporters in Paris that women who have already received fines can protest them based on Friday's decision.
"It is a decision that is meant to set legal precedent," he said. "Today all the ordinances taken should conform to the decision of the Council of State. Logically the mayors should withdraw these ordinances. If not legal actions could be taken" against those towns.
But the mayor of the Corsican town of Sisco said he wouldn't lift the ban he imposed after an Aug. 13 clash on a beach.
"Here the tension is very, very, very high and I won't withdraw it," Ange-Pierre Vivoni said on BFM-TV.
He said he doesn't know whether a woman was actually wearing a burkini the day a clash occurred that set a group of Corsican sunbathers of North African origin against villagers from Sisco. It took days to untangle the events leading to the violence that many immediately assumed was over a burkini sighting.
The bans have become a symbol of tensions around the place of Islam in secular France.
Many officials —including Prime Minister Manuel Valls — have argued that burkinis oppress women. But critics say the bans were feeding a racist political agenda as campaigning for next year's French presidential elections were kicking off.
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Post by mouse on Aug 31, 2016 7:28:32 GMT -5
if only it were that simple |
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Post by apple on Aug 31, 2016 11:24:45 GMT -5
if only it were that simple Ah but it is. |
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Post by mouse on Sept 1, 2016 1:27:51 GMT -5
if only it were that simple Ah but it is. well yes in a way its simple..all they have to do is stop wearing the offensive garment in a western country......problem solved[now why didn't anyone else think of such a simple solution] |
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Post by apple on Sept 1, 2016 10:28:27 GMT -5
well yes in a way its simple..all they have to do is stop wearing the offensive garment in a western country......problem solved[now why didn't anyone else think of such a simple solution] Offensive garment. Really? What is offensive to me is the fact that it is not about people covering up at the beach. This is entirely about the people, not the clothing. The clothing is an excuse to show your contempt for the people, not the clothes. Prepare to be "offended". lmao  |
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Post by mouse on Sept 2, 2016 2:46:27 GMT -5
now you have phrased that wrongly...my contempt is for the idiocy they follow not the people them selves
but yes I disagree with the burkha and the burkini ..I would have equal contempt for any mysoginistic backward cult which preaches death to those who do not folow its mantra
and yes I find the clothing not so much offensive as much as insulting and two fingers up to the western world and every thing it stands for
what they do in their own countries is entirely up to them...what they do in our countries is what we unfortunately let them get away with
and do try to remember that until a few perhaps 30-40 years ago...you would never have seen a burkha in the west except in capitol cities with visitors or embassy staff
these garments are nothing more than inflamitory political statements
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