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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 28, 2010 15:31:08 GMT -5
CALL FOR LETTERS OPPOSING PAROLE OF LESLIE VAN HOUTEN (CDC W-13378) We are currently accepting email letters opposing release of Manson Family murderer Leslie Van Houten. When composing your letter include Van Houten’s CDC # (W-13378) the reasons you believe she is unsuitable for parole, your name and address (at least the City and State). If you’d like some information on Van Houten please see our biography here: tatefamilylegacy.com/lvh.htmlIt outlines Van Houten’s crimes and the reasons we believe she is unsuitable for parole. You can then email the letter to us here at tatefamilylegacy@gmail.com. We'll make sure they are forwarded on. If you prefer you may mail your letter to: Board of Parole Hearings Post Office Box 4036 Sacramento, CA 95812-4036 However, if you do mail your letter please do so ASAP. If you can, please send us a copy of your mailed letter so we can make sure it isn’t lost in the mail and is counted. Please pass this information on to anyone you think may be willing to write a letter opposing Van Houten’s release. If you don’t make your voice heard now it soon may be too late. If CA thinks you don’t care that they are going to release these serial killers/mass murderers/sociopaths they may let them out due to budgetary concerns. We understand CA financial issues but we feel a line in the sand has to be drawn when it comes to these types of criminals. Thank you. TateFamilyLegacy.com TateLegacy.com
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2010 22:55:43 GMT -5
The Tate family is now stooping to spreading hysteria through lies and stirring people up with bullshyt?
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Post by gabriel on Jun 29, 2010 1:11:39 GMT -5
chef, I got no prob with this. If I was a US citizen I'd reply in the negative. What will be next? Charlie on day release to work as a real estate agent? Yeah man, let me show you where a house once stood on Cielo Drive...
It's been so long since I've discussed this. Do you think Charlie went back that night to Cielo Dr?
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Post by Wonder Woman on Jun 29, 2010 8:28:58 GMT -5
The Tate family is now stooping to spreading hysteria through lies and stirring people up with bullshyt? Chef, can you be more specific? What lies are they spreading, for example. And, do you think this murderer should be released?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2010 9:21:28 GMT -5
The Tate family is now stooping to spreading hysteria through lies and stirring people up with bullshyt? Chef, can you be more specific? What lies are they spreading, for example. And, do you think this murderer should be released? "If you don’t make your voice heard now it soon may be too late. If CA thinks you don’t care that they are going to release these serial killers/mass murderers/sociopaths they may let them out due to budgetary concerns. We understand CA financial issues but we feel a line in the sand has to be drawn when it comes to these types of criminals." We all know there are certain murderers who will never be released but the Tates are trying to spread hysteria and for that I have lost respect for them. I would release Leslie as I don't feel she is the same as the drug riddled child
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2010 9:32:05 GMT -5
Chefmate, I always look forward to your posts. I knew you write out of honest sincerity and out of a good and loving heart.
I am not sure whether or not I agree with you on this one. My head says that I DO but my heart says otherwise.
What the Tate family went through was horrific and Leslie van Houten quite probably HAS changed from the person she used to be.
I think the same is true of Brittany Holberg.
The problem is that they DID murder innocent people and although I oppose execution I feel that in cases such as this life really SHOULD mean life.
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Post by Wonder Woman on Jun 29, 2010 10:23:34 GMT -5
Chef, can you be more specific? What lies are they spreading, for example. And, do you think this murderer should be released? "If you don’t make your voice heard now it soon may be too late. If CA thinks you don’t care that they are going to release these serial killers/mass murderers/sociopaths they may let them out due to budgetary concerns. We understand CA financial issues but we feel a line in the sand has to be drawn when it comes to these types of criminals." We all know there are certain murderers who will never be released but the Tates are trying to spread hysteria and for that I have lost respect for them. I would release Leslie as I don't feel she is the same as the drug riddled child Ah. Thanks for explaining, Chef. Probably they fear the horrific crimes will mean very little to people if they don't harp on it. And, while I agree the hysteria isn't necessary, if/when all murderers are sentenced to LWOP there wouldn't be this desperate need inside MVS to keep reminding people of the crimes committed. So, I guess that I get their hysteria, even while feeling it should be unnecessary. I don't believe that any 1st degree murderer should ever be released, no matter how tame they've become with age, no matter that they may no longer be a danger.
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Post by Mo-DAWG on Jun 29, 2010 10:37:38 GMT -5
Lynne is right Cheffie ... I have to say that the Tate Familiy (and all other families victimized through these murders) went through horrible trauma so I do understand their stances .. I mean take Sharon's death as one example: slaughtering an 8 month pregnant woman and her unborn baby, not cutting the baby out of Sharon's body for the sole reason that there was "no time".. bragging and laughing about it till the end in court .. I don't see any reason why van Houten, Krenwinkel, Watson etc. should ever be released .. these weren't even "normal murders"(if there is such thing as "normal murders")..this was pure sadism with a lust to kill.. I remember I was on topix or something like that when Atkins last parole hearing came up ad someone said "god let her out, she can't even move a finger" .. excuse me folks but so can't Sharon .. such comments just show how people kinda forget about a crime.. I am an anti but at the same time I have to say and firmly believe that LIFE should mean LIFE .. if someone f**ked up that badly he really proved that he can't be in the free world/society .. just my 2 cents ... keep the change.. (just kidding )
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Post by iamjumbo on Jun 29, 2010 11:00:47 GMT -5
Chef, can you be more specific? What lies are they spreading, for example. And, do you think this murderer should be released? "If you don’t make your voice heard now it soon may be too late. If CA thinks you don’t care that they are going to release these serial killers/mass murderers/sociopaths they may let them out due to budgetary concerns. We understand CA financial issues but we feel a line in the sand has to be drawn when it comes to these types of criminals." We all know there are certain murderers who will never be released but the Tates are trying to spread hysteria and for that I have lost respect for them. I would release Leslie as I don't feel she is the same as the drug riddled child what has that got to do with anything? how does that make sharon and the others less dead? NOTHING can ever change the fact that the broad wantonly murdered, and drugs are NEVER< under any condition, an excuse. the broad deserves to be dead, a long time ago
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Post by iamjumbo on Jun 29, 2010 11:12:20 GMT -5
Chefmate, I always look forward to your posts. I knew you write out of honest sincerity and out of a good and loving heart. I am not sure whether or not I agree with you on this one. My head says that I DO but my heart says otherwise. What the Tate family went through was horrific and Leslie van Houten quite probably HAS changed from the person she used to be. I think the same is true of Brittany Holberg. The problem is that they DID murder innocent people and although I oppose execution I feel that in cases such as this life really SHOULD mean life. there's certainly nothing good that can be said of holberg, and in many respects, the c..t is worse than van houten
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2010 11:34:55 GMT -5
Jim, I was not defending either woman. I was merely saying that she has changed and developed since her time in prison.
Lin wrote a very good poem about her which you can find on another message board though you probably wouldn't want to go there because it's not simply 'anti' but even in MY opinion a little naive about criminals.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2010 17:26:37 GMT -5
I have no problem with the Tate's taking a stand against VanHouten's parole; it is their business and choice in life but just don't drag hysteria and fear into the factor.
California isn't going to release violent criminals because of the budget problems.
I agree with Lynne, IF the courts would sentence life without there would be no conflicts forty years down the road but as long as the door was left open, inmates have a chance of parole.
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