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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2010 11:15:25 GMT -5
As someone who has also taught it to foreign students I doubt that I am deficient in that respect, LJ.
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Post by liberaljoe on Jul 6, 2010 11:22:26 GMT -5
As someone who has also taught it to foreign students I doubt that I am deficient in that respect, LJ. I think that you are actually. You miscomprehensions are evident in many places and you take no notice when your misunderstandings are pointed out. Is your philosophy solopsism perhaps? In fact I am beginning to doubt your professions of philosophy, but really that has nothing to do with me. I do like people to understand what I am saying though and not read in what is not there.
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Post by Wonder Woman on Jul 6, 2010 21:13:36 GMT -5
Excellent word! If we were anywhere else, I'd say you should get used people interpreting your posts into what they think it should say and then arguing against what you never said........ As it happens, this space has fewer than an average number of people who do that, Mike among them and obviously equal to the task
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Post by Erasmus on Jul 6, 2010 23:14:47 GMT -5
By hokey! Don't they always! I used to think that a certain self-styled feminist was bad for spending days telling me what she wanted me to have said before lecturing me with what I had posted in the first place as if I were an idiot, but I've met a man on one board whose answer to all issues is to declare it Strawman and then rave off in a style that looks like a university psychology library cut up and mixed up at random about his own version that has naff-all to do with anything I ever said. It's like a Fundamentalist.
These people all display a common characteristic though, that they don't see a discussion as understanding viewpoints and learning from each other; they see it as a confrontation they must win by any means and any disagreement with them to be shouted down as inability to accept disagreement (in the feminist's case because she was female of course) offensive when I've pointed their lies out as lies, all references to backing sites dismissed with a lot of noise to discourage anybody from looking there, or at least prejudice them in advance if they do.
It seems to be more a feature of English boards than American. Of course there are Americans like that but I go with the liberal ones, not the Conspiracy Theorists, and even when we disagree, we tend to do so like normal people in real life straightforwardly saying we think otherwise instead of dragging some ulterior victim motive into it or just playing playground tantrum, never mind the links you showed to support your view, you insulted me by disagreeing with me so you're a nasty evil pervert prejudiced against me because of what I am, not just that you know more about the subject than I do - and if yuo do, that proves you're mad anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2010 17:18:13 GMT -5
Well, liberaljoe, in the first place your name is NOT Joe, nor are you a liberal.
I assume you intended 'solipsism' in your typo though with your apparent inability to put forward anything resembling a rational argument it is hard to be certain.
I also assume that you recognise that it would be rather improbable for anyone who actually believed in solipsism to play any part in a message board.
It is abundantly clear that you have scat respect for truth so it is hardly worth the effort of attempting to dispute the point with someone whose sole purpose on message boards until now has been as a conscious wrecker.
I have been fortunate enough NOT to have crossed swords with you before. My wife has NOT been so fortunate. Under at least three names, you have joined forums with the sole intention of destroying them.
I am anxious that you do NOT succeed in your quest in regard to this board.
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Post by Wonder Woman on Jul 7, 2010 21:43:22 GMT -5
So what, Mike? Who cares what his/her 'real' name is? There are any number of people here who aren't who they say they are. As illustration, I confess I'm not necessarily Wonder Woman ~ oh, I know that revelation will bring devastation to Sadie, so don't tell her please.
In this conversation, Mike, you put forth the argument that Liberal Joe said something that HE did not say, and then argued against IT. IMO, it is you who seems to have a reading comprehension problem. Perhaps it stems from your preconcieved notion of why Joe is here and your presumption that anyone is strong enough to 'bring down this board'.
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Post by liberaljoe on Jul 8, 2010 1:15:33 GMT -5
Well, liberaljoe, in the first place your name is NOT Joe, nor are you a liberal. I assume you intended 'solipsism' in your typo though with your apparent inability to put forward anything resembling a rational argument it is hard to be certain. I also assume that you recognise that it would be rather improbable for anyone who actually believed in solipsism to play any part in a message board. It is abundantly clear that you have scat respect for truth so it is hardly worth the effort of attempting to dispute the point with someone whose sole purpose on message boards until now has been as a conscious wrecker. I have been fortunate enough NOT to have crossed swords with you before. My wife has NOT been so fortunate. Under at least three names, you have joined forums with the sole intention of destroying them. I am anxious that you do NOT succeed in your quest in regard to this board. Please do remember, mike, that it is you that hss been bandying the insults around. You have accused me of having an 'inability' as as an'extremeist' simply because you disagree with what I say. Now you accuse me of not being able to put forward a rational argument and tell me that I have scant respect for the truth. You then misread my posts and attack me for soemthing I have not said. When I point out that you have misunderstood me you simply ignore what I say and continue accusing me of what I had not said I also note that you have accused others of 'having just half a brain cell' and of being liars Are you being entirely rational yourself or are you allowing emotionalism to rule you head? That approach is certainly not philosophical now is it. Perhaps more moderate language would be appropriate And yes I did mean solipsism and thank you for so kindly and gently reminding me of my error! And indeed a solipsist could post messages on MB's! The whole MB and all its contributors would simply exist in his own mind. That is the essence of solipsism. I would have thought that you were aware of solipsism.
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Post by biglin on Jul 8, 2010 16:28:06 GMT -5
I'm to blame for this - I haven't forgotten the way you carried on with other boards.
I was the one who told Mike about you.
He's just being a protective husband!
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Post by biglin on Jul 8, 2010 16:29:40 GMT -5
Anyway, back to the thread. Are there contradictions in the Bible? Yes, like in any work that's produced by human beings.
The Bible's no different from The Origin of Species, The Communist Manifesto, or The God Delusion.
All of them just represent human attempts to understand the world.
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Post by beth on Jul 8, 2010 16:31:36 GMT -5
ummm Lin? Why would Mike be protecting you here on Tapestry? We have a very well spelled-out little guideline - no quarrels from other boards. Best idea, just pretend you've never seen any of these folks before and react to their posts here on a clean slate . Just might work wonders.
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Post by biglin on Jul 8, 2010 17:01:41 GMT -5
Mike can't help being a protective husband any more than I can a protective wife.
Anyway, that WAS my obviously badly worded attempt to try and pour oil on troubled waters.
Like I said, let's get back to the thread!
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Post by liberaljoe on Jul 9, 2010 3:54:07 GMT -5
I'm to blame for this - I haven't forgotten the way you carried on with other boards. I was the one who told Mike about you. He's just being a protective husband! Nor me you my dear. You really are impossible - even in trying to 'pour oil on troubled water' you put your foot in your mouth
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