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Jun 24, 2011 11:24:58 GMT -5
Post by maggie on Jun 24, 2011 11:24:58 GMT -5
Who do you trust? Who can you trust: Pepe Rodriguez was one of the most notorious bank robbers in the wild, wild west. He would creep over the border into Texas , rob a bank and then flee back to Mexico. The Texas Rangers got so frustrated they decided that they would cross the border illegally and track him down. There was a long search, and finally they cornered him in a Mexican bar. All the lawmen had their guns drawn. Pepe was terrified. He could speak no English and the Rangers couldn't speak any Spanish. So they asked Pepe's friend, the bartender, to translate. He explained to Pepe who they were. The Rangers asked the barman to explain to Pepe that they wanted to know where he had hidden all the money. If he didn't tell them, they would shoot him down like a dog. The bartender translated, and Pepe began to shake with fear. "Tell them the money is hidden in the well. Count down 17 stones from the handle, and that's where all the loot is." The bartender turned to the Rangers and said in English, "Pepe is a very brave man. He says that you are a bunch of stinking pigs, and he is not afraid to die."
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Jun 24, 2011 14:48:24 GMT -5
Post by beth on Jun 24, 2011 14:48:24 GMT -5
Who do you trust?
I'm pretty trusting ... until there's reason not to be. Broken trust once or twice has to make us go "hmmmmm". Third time is usually the limit before I start to think I've (maybe) made a mistake.
Is "trust" the same as loyalty?
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Jun 24, 2011 16:29:34 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 16:29:34 GMT -5
An interesting question. Trust for me is about being able to rely on another person's honesty and sincerity and (in certain situations) believing that they will support you and be there for you as you would if the roles were reversed.
Loyalty is not quite the same IMO.
To take a somewhat frivolous example, I have supported Brentford FC all my life. That hardly means that (even though I remain a loyal supporter) I trust them.
I certainly do not trust the lunatics who fired Andy Scott after he took us to victory over a Premiership side and pulled us from the bottom of our division to (briefly) within sight of a play-off place.
I certainly do not trust politicians - though some less so than others.
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Jun 24, 2011 19:19:43 GMT -5
Post by sadie on Jun 24, 2011 19:19:43 GMT -5
I do not have a trusting nature. I enjoy people and talking to people but rarely will I give anything of myself that I deem too personal or that would hurt me if it were to get out.
My mother used to go thru my things and read any notes she found (in Jr. High and High School). I was really horrified by that and have always had serious issues with privacy and boundaries you just don't cross. To this day I will rarely put anything in writing that I would consider personal or secretive.
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Jun 25, 2011 8:54:24 GMT -5
Post by mouse on Jun 25, 2011 8:54:24 GMT -5
trust and loyalty are two different things i am very slow to give either my trust or loyalty but once given i trust fully same with my loyalty but once trust is broken i never go back to trusting....
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Jun 25, 2011 9:34:53 GMT -5
Post by Jessiealan on Jun 25, 2011 9:34:53 GMT -5
Being trustworthy is as important as being trusting. I am moderately trusting and extremely trustworthy. If I am trusted with a confidence, I won't betray that trust. It is part of treating others the way I want to be treated.
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Jun 25, 2011 19:39:56 GMT -5
Post by Erasmus on Jun 25, 2011 19:39:56 GMT -5
I think Maggie's original a good joke. It belongs to a certain genre of translation jokes, some of them actually true. President Carter had a particularly bad time in Poland with interpreters whose Polish was Russian and subsequently whose English was nearly non-existent.
It all depends a bit what you mean by trust and under what circumstances. One of the people I trust the most in matters I consider important, I would not trust a moment not to take advantage of a mistake in her favour, return dropped money to its owner, or not do a bit of shoplifting given the chance - but to somebody she has reason to trust, if she said she had an appointment with a flying saucer full of yetis you can call the press! (Josy reminds me of Lin in a lot of ways - but Lin is better-looking: there's a surprising number of Irish women who look like Sid James, and she is one of them!)
I've often found that: it's the people whom others consider untrustworthy, and sometimes in certain circumstance you know perfectly well that it is not a good idea to put in the way of temptation, who can be relied upon the most in other respects. They often have an almost tribal attitude, that it is inconceivable to take advantage of a friend in any way, but anybody else is fair game.
Conversely, I rarely trust situations. The most well-meaning people can be perfectly decent in themselves, but come the time of reckoning and the information they believed entirely true had led them up the garden path, or something intervenes to forestall fulfilling their promise, or they were relying on somebody who let them down ~ and so on.
The ones I never understand, and neither has anybody in my family. even the ones I have never met but have heard about, are the people who lie when there is no conceivable benefit to them for doing so. I can understand people lying about their abilities or to con others out of something or to protect themselves, but some people seem to be habitual liars just for the sake of it, and often to think themselves wonderful and anybody else stupid for believing them. In the end, nobody believes anything they say even when it's true, and then they go into a sulk whingeing that everybody is against them and nobody believes a word they say. They are right of course, but they are the ones who made it that way.
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Dec 21, 2017 22:12:02 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 21, 2017 22:12:02 GMT -5
Who do you trust? Who can you trust: Pepe Rodriguez was one of the most notorious bank robbers in the wild, wild west. He would creep over the border into Texas , rob a bank and then flee back to Mexico. The Texas Rangers got so frustrated they decided that they would cross the border illegally and track him down. There was a long search, and finally they cornered him in a Mexican bar. All the lawmen had their guns drawn. Pepe was terrified. He could speak no English and the Rangers couldn't speak any Spanish. So they asked Pepe's friend, the bartender, to translate. He explained to Pepe who they were. The Rangers asked the barman to explain to Pepe that they wanted to know where he had hidden all the money. If he didn't tell them, they would shoot him down like a dog. The bartender translated, and Pepe began to shake with fear. "Tell them the money is hidden in the well. Count down 17 stones from the handle, and that's where all the loot is." The bartender turned to the Rangers and said in English, "Pepe is a very brave man. He says that you are a bunch of stinking pigs, and he is not afraid to die." I'm glad I came across this post, I love it.!!!
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Dec 22, 2017 2:05:20 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 22, 2017 2:05:20 GMT -5
I do not have a trusting nature. I enjoy people and talking to people but rarely will I give anything of myself that I deem too personal or that would hurt me if it were to get out. My mother used to go thru my things and read any notes she found (in Jr. High and High School). I was really horrified by that and have always had serious issues with privacy and boundaries you just don't cross. To this day I will rarely put anything in writing that I would consider personal or secretive. I see this situation from different points of view. It will always be a Mother's responsibility to safeguard her children.Young people can be in danger because of their trusting nature. An older person would be aware of this. It is my belief that your Mother was checking to make sure that everything was on the up and up and that you were not involved in anything that could cause you harm. Some people see their Mother as their best friend and don't keep any secrets from her, so the fact that these incidents affected you so badly as to cause long term distrust and suspicion of people, certainly is unfortunate. It seems that you never had a close relationship with your Mother, what a pity.!!!
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Dec 22, 2017 2:28:17 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Dec 22, 2017 2:28:17 GMT -5
An interesting question. Trust for me is about being able to rely on another person's honesty and sincerity and (in certain situations) believing that they will support you and be there for you as you would if the roles mowere reversed. Loyalty is not quite the same IMO. To take a somewhat frivolous example, I have supported Brentford FC all my life. That hardly means that (even though I remain a loyal supporter) I trust them. I certainly do not trust the lunatics who fired Andy Scott after he took us to victory over a Premiership side and pulled us from the bottom of our division to (briefly) within sight of a play-off place. I certainly do not trust politicians - though some less so than others. I tend to trust people to such times as the real truth is revealed. If I thought I wasn't being told the truth I wouldn't bother to reply to a post.
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