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Post by fretslider on Oct 29, 2020 5:45:50 GMT -5
Now I know what the term ‘victim blaming’ means. In the fortnight since Parisian schoolteacher Samuel Paty was beheaded for the ‘crime’ of teaching children about freedom of speech, something extraordinary has happened. France has come under attack. Yes, the victim of this barbaric execution, the republic that lost one of its public servants to the bloody zealotry of a radical Islamist, is the one that is being criticised. France has been condemned and boycotted and branded ‘Islamophobic’. This rage against the victim of terrorism, against a nation that has been in mourning for a schoolteacher whose only offence was to believe in liberty, confirms how warped the discussion about radical Islam has become.
From across the Muslim world in particular, France has been denounced and defamed relentlessly over the past week. Rather than offering solidarity with a nation that suffered a particularly gruesome attack – a medieval-style execution of one of its public educators – leading figures in Turkey, Pakistan and elsewhere have chosen to whip up hatred and fury against France. What kind of country allows satirists to mock Islam, they’ve asked? ...
In Turkey, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan chose the aftermath of the slaughter of Paty to chastise France for disrespecting Islam. In response to Macron’s sensible, measured suggestion that Islam in France requires reform, and that any Islamic extremists who threaten ‘the republic and its values’ should be dealt with harshly, Erdogan asked: ‘What is Macron’s problem with Muslims?’ Macron is pursuing an ‘anti-Islam’ agenda, he said. He even suggested that Macron requires ‘mental treatment’ – which is actually in keeping with the idea of ‘Islamophobia’, which likewise depicts any criticism of Islam as a form of mental instability, a ‘phobia’, an irrational fear. Erdogan called upon Turks to boycott French goods. That’s right: mere days after France suffered an appalling atrocity, Erdogan was marshalling his population to punish France.www.spiked-online.com/2020/10/28/wheres-the-solidarity-with-france/Not one single figure in authority in the muslim world has said anything on the killing, even worse, neither have ours. Hebdo published a new cartoon - one that no single UK media outlet has shown, yes that's their much vaunted, fearless press freedom, an abstract construct that counts for little. Remember a cartoon is far more offensive than the persecution of muslim uighurs in Chinese re-education camps, for example. A Turkish government minister has called French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo “b*stards” and “sons of b*tches” over a new satirical cartoon showing President Erdogan in his underwear.
The frontpage cartoon of the magazine, which features Erdogan in his underwear looking at the bare bottom of a woman in an Islamic veil and bears the caption “in private he is very funny”, has earned the anger of the Turkish leader, who has now threatened legal action. www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/10/28/indignant-turkey-on-warpath-over-new-charlie-hebdo-erdogan-cartoon/They just cannot handle ridicule and satire. French police “neutralised” and arrested a man Thursday morning after a knife attack inside a church in the city of Nice which left at least three dead and several injured.
The mayor of Nice did not mince his words when he spoke to the television cameras Thursday morning, reports local newspaper Nice Matin, revealing that the attacker “would not stop repeating ‘Allahu akbar’ while he was injured”.
Declaring that “enough is enough”, mayor Christian Estrosi said Nice was “paying too heavy a price by once again being victims of Islamo-fascism”.www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/10/29/terror-attack-three-dead-several-injured-in-nice-france/It's all about the numbers... And it isn't just a few.
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Post by toby1 on Oct 29, 2020 7:59:22 GMT -5
""They just cannot handle ridicule and satire."" This is quite true but it also applies to Demctrats in the USA as well. You can criticize Demcrats and the criticism rolls off them but if you mock them then they start frothing and gibbering with rage. One of the worst is Michelle Obama who is very self conscious of her skin colour so she takes any jibes at her as being Racist, whereas they are jibes simply because she is an egotistical prat of a woman.
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Post by mouse on Oct 29, 2020 14:15:18 GMT -5
the fact they cannot handle mockery laughter and satire.... make those very important weapons........they should be mocked and laughed at and mocked and laughed till they are incandesant with rage...........am tired of the wets that run our countries.....but the way our leaders keep pushing,, they wont be able to keeo a lid on things forever........... and muslim feelings will be the least of their worries
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Post by toby1 on Oct 30, 2020 11:43:09 GMT -5
One of the reasons they always try to close down Tommy Robinson is that they are afraid he could become a focal point for resistance by British folk. Remember that last century some disgruntled Germans gathered together in a Pub to complain about things they were not happy with and they wondered what could they do about it, there were only a few of them but they were quite sincere in what they wanted, one of their number was an Austrian Immigrant called Herr Hitler.
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Post by fretslider on Oct 31, 2020 5:18:10 GMT -5
One of the reasons they always try to close down Tommy Robinson is that they are afraid he could become a focal point for resistance by British folk. Remember that last century some disgruntled Germans gathered together in a Pub to complain about things they were not happy with and they wondered what could they do about it, there were only a few of them but they were quite sincere in what they wanted, one of their number was an Austrian Immigrant called Herr Hitler. Robinson isn't the one. He's a rough and while that's useful on the street you need someone with a bit of gravitas. No, it isn't Farage, either.
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Post by toby1 on Oct 31, 2020 8:12:30 GMT -5
I don't disagree Fretty, Tommy and Nigel are useful in what they do and they are quite sincere about what they want but neither is the Leader the British need.
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Post by mouse on Oct 31, 2020 11:37:26 GMT -5
well they do say commeth the hour commeth the man.... we we have been waiting rather a long time..... the line waiting in hope are getting restless
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Post by toby1 on Nov 9, 2020 17:16:04 GMT -5
The British used to believe that Arthur would miraculously appear together with his knights at the time of our dire need. Of course it is unlikely to happen but it does show that people do need hope that there is somebody or something that would save them. President Trump offered hope to Americans and they are sad he has seemingly lost the election. The demcrats really hated him, it was not just like Man City fans dislike Man united, it is a deeper hate which is based on the fact that they know Trump was doing things beneficial to Americans, not beneficial to the rest of the world. Why people get like this is a mystery but we had similar folk in the UK, Guy Burgess, Donald MaClean, Anthony Blunt, Kim Philby, Harold Wilson, Tony Blair, David Cameron all sold the British down the river and I suspect that if these creatures had been born in the USA then they Would all be Demcrats.
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Post by mouse on Nov 10, 2020 8:36:31 GMT -5
in deed it was and still is a deep hate for trump i could understand politos hating him.. because he wasnt one of them.... and showed you didnt have to be from the pool some times incestuous pool of politics and political families......and yet there was not hate for gw bush who had taken America into two wars and no one thought it ilegal or disgusting that people got killed on bare face lies...even when trump did something good he was never given the credit.. mush as my self and other loathed blair and would have him hung he did one or two good things......
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Post by toby1 on Nov 10, 2020 10:04:51 GMT -5
I am continually amazed at how Blair got away with what he did, those dead Soldiers and then his fortune of nearly 200 Million quid ! Blair has Accountants working full time to grow his fortune !! now just think about that !
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Post by fretslider on Nov 11, 2020 5:55:25 GMT -5
I am continually amazed at how Blair got away with what he did, those dead Soldiers and then his fortune of nearly 200 Million quid ! Blair has Accountants working full time to grow his fortune !! now just think about that ! Think about it Toby. When John Smith died and Blair took over as leader of the opposition he had many meetings with George Soros and others. Many meetings. Never have you wondered why the banks did a u-turn and supported 'socialist' Labour? Remember, Militant had not long been defeated. One of the first things Blair did was to make an independent company - The Bank of England - even more of an independent company. This was followed by Brown's pension grab. Brown always loved to play magician where you got something for seemingly nothing - until the PFI payments kicked in. On the Iraq war, which was really about the hegemony of the petro-dollar, you can read up here: web.archive.org/web/20110503170958/www.peterdalescott.net/iraq.htmlA faithful servant is rewarded and, where possible, even utilised. He had a stint as a middle east envoy of sorts. One thing Blair has is a very bulging contact list. Every now and then he pops up and pontificates in the pliable press. Blair is very much on the active staff list.
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Post by mouse on Nov 11, 2020 8:46:32 GMT -5
i am afraid you all too correct Fretty .... this week the odious blair has been pontificating and brown has crawled out from underneath what ever pit of slime he has been hiding in and to top it off along comes the grey man to tell with a barely concealed gloat how we are not a world power any more........well thats absolutely fine by me and others as looking around and seeing the those are supposedly world powers..... well you wouldnt trust them to run a bath never mind the world........ has there ever been a bigger group of shysters and liars in chargeof our health and wealthfare.....Johnson.. Macron.. the busted flush that is Merkel... Justin Trude xx..Putin and the wolves in Bejing.... what a collection of human dross and add to that collection old Joe....
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