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Post by fretslider on Jan 6, 2020 6:02:40 GMT -5
Caught between a rock and a green place.... According to Joe Biden, coal miners worried about their future should retrain as software developers. Miners were less than impressed with Biden’s advice. Joe Biden says coal miners should ‘learn to program’By David Montanaro | Fox News Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s suggestion that coal miners should “learn to program” as the United States transitions away from fossil fuels shows “disdain” for the profession, a representative of West Virginia miners said Wednesday on “Fox & Friends.”
Chris Hamilton, co-chair of the West Virginia Coal Forum, hit back at the former vice president for essentially saying coal miners should learn to code or focus on preparing for a revamped green economy.
“Anybody who can go down 300-3,000 feet in a mine sure as hell can learn how to program as well,” said Biden at a campaign event Monday in New Hampshire. “But we don’t think of it that way. Anybody who can throw coal into furnace can learn how to program for God’s sake.”
Hamilton said the attitude from Biden and others on the left regarding coal is “inconceivable” but nothing new, given the Obama administration’s moves against the industry.
“It’s just inconceivable how someone, particularly in his position could advocate putting tens of thousands of working Americans out of work. But it comes as no surprise. Former Vice President Biden has repeatedly demonstrated his disdain for mining and for our coal miners,” he responded.… Read more: www.foxnews.com/media/joe-biden-coal-miners-learn-program-codeWhy didn’t Joe Biden suggest they retrain as brain surgeons? The answer of course, is everybody knows brain surgery is difficult. Coding by contrast is so easy anyone could learn to do it in a few weeks, because we’ve all seen that Hollywood movie where a high school kid hacks the computer which controls NORAD. After President Biden shuts down the coal industry, my guess is coal miners who are still out of work after completing their government provided six week bootcamp software development course, well they’re not really trying, are they? wattsupwiththat.com/2020/01/05/joe-bidens-climate-advice-to-coal-miners-learn-to-code/ |
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Post by josephdphillips on Jan 6, 2020 10:51:05 GMT -5
According to Joe Biden, coal miners worried about their future should retrain as software developers. Software developers make far less than coal miners, with no benefits. The Dems are the Keystone Cops of politics. President Trump could chop a baby into stew meat and get re-elected, given the rank incompetence and stupidity of his opposition. |
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Post by beth on Jan 6, 2020 13:01:22 GMT -5
According to Joe Biden, coal miners worried about their future should retrain as software developers. Software developers make far less than coal miners, with no benefits. The Dems are the Keystone Cops of politics. President Trump could chop a baby into stew meat and get re-elected, given the rank incompetence and stupidity of his opposition. They make less but not "far" less. They also generally live longer and have better chances for higher education and advancement than coal miners. If you aren't aware of this, you may as well trust me. It's a subject with which I have solid familiarity. Those who refuse re-education don't deserve weeping and wailing. MO |
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Post by Sysop3 on Jan 7, 2020 1:31:15 GMT -5
Caught between a rock and a green place.... According to Joe Biden, coal miners worried about their future should retrain as software developers. Miners were less than impressed with Biden’s advice. Joe Biden says coal miners should ‘learn to program’By David Montanaro | Fox News Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s suggestion that coal miners should “learn to program” as the United States transitions away from fossil fuels shows “disdain” for the profession, a representative of West Virginia miners said Wednesday on “Fox & Friends.”
Chris Hamilton, co-chair of the West Virginia Coal Forum, hit back at the former vice president for essentially saying coal miners should learn to code or focus on preparing for a revamped green economy.
“Anybody who can go down 300-3,000 feet in a mine sure as hell can learn how to program as well,” said Biden at a campaign event Monday in New Hampshire. “But we don’t think of it that way. Anybody who can throw coal into furnace can learn how to program for God’s sake.”
Hamilton said the attitude from Biden and others on the left regarding coal is “inconceivable” but nothing new, given the Obama administration’s moves against the industry.
“It’s just inconceivable how someone, particularly in his position could advocate putting tens of thousands of working Americans out of work. But it comes as no surprise. Former Vice President Biden has repeatedly demonstrated his disdain for mining and for our coal miners,” he responded.… Read more: www.foxnews.com/media/joe-biden-coal-miners-learn-program-codeWhy didn’t Joe Biden suggest they retrain as brain surgeons? The answer of course, is everybody knows brain surgery is difficult. Coding by contrast is so easy anyone could learn to do it in a few weeks, because we’ve all seen that Hollywood movie where a high school kid hacks the computer which controls NORAD. After President Biden shuts down the coal industry, my guess is coal miners who are still out of work after completing their government provided six week bootcamp software development course, well they’re not really trying, are they? wattsupwiththat.com/2020/01/05/joe-bidens-climate-advice-to-coal-miners-learn-to-code/\Fret, I don't know why you've got yourself in such a stir about Joe Biden. He might or might not get the Democratic nod for the candidate to oppose Trump this year. Whoever is most likely to win and unseat Trump before he can do any more damage, bring 'em on. From what I see, the Democratic nominee hopefuls are not the crooks, that would be DJT and his ilk. John Bolton has offered to testify in Trump's impeachment trial. We're not even sure the President willm get to run again, yet. Bernie is running neck to neck with Biden right now, in case you missed that. |
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Post by fretslider on Jan 8, 2020 6:02:00 GMT -5
According to Joe Biden, coal miners worried about their future should retrain as software developers. Software developers make far less than coal miners, with no benefits. The Dems are the Keystone Cops of politics. President Trump could chop a baby into stew meat and get re-elected, given the rank incompetence and stupidity of his opposition. It's quite clear that Biden doesn't know anything about 'how to code', and he obviously has no idea of how many software languages are out there and what they can best be applied to. You wouldn't want to use Java in a Nuclear power station setting now, would you? They spout the mantra of thousands of 'green jobs' but nobody knows what these green jobs actually are - horticulture? [Livestock] Farming is a real no-no in the brave new bug-protein world of the neo-mediaeval. My guess is Trump's gamble worked. They blinked. In what it described as a “hard” retaliation, Iran’s Islamist government fired a series of ballistic missiles at military bases in Iraq housing U.S. troops www.politico.com/news/2020/01/07/iran-retaliation-iraq-base-095869The Iranians have lost face on this one. |
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Post by fretslider on Jan 8, 2020 6:43:06 GMT -5
Caught between a rock and a green place.... According to Joe Biden, coal miners worried about their future should retrain as software developers. Miners were less than impressed with Biden’s advice. Joe Biden says coal miners should ‘learn to program’By David Montanaro | Fox News Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden’s suggestion that coal miners should “learn to program” as the United States transitions away from fossil fuels shows “disdain” for the profession, a representative of West Virginia miners said Wednesday on “Fox & Friends.”
Chris Hamilton, co-chair of the West Virginia Coal Forum, hit back at the former vice president for essentially saying coal miners should learn to code or focus on preparing for a revamped green economy.
“Anybody who can go down 300-3,000 feet in a mine sure as hell can learn how to program as well,” said Biden at a campaign event Monday in New Hampshire. “But we don’t think of it that way. Anybody who can throw coal into furnace can learn how to program for God’s sake.”
Hamilton said the attitude from Biden and others on the left regarding coal is “inconceivable” but nothing new, given the Obama administration’s moves against the industry.
“It’s just inconceivable how someone, particularly in his position could advocate putting tens of thousands of working Americans out of work. But it comes as no surprise. Former Vice President Biden has repeatedly demonstrated his disdain for mining and for our coal miners,” he responded.… Read more: www.foxnews.com/media/joe-biden-coal-miners-learn-program-codeWhy didn’t Joe Biden suggest they retrain as brain surgeons? The answer of course, is everybody knows brain surgery is difficult. Coding by contrast is so easy anyone could learn to do it in a few weeks, because we’ve all seen that Hollywood movie where a high school kid hacks the computer which controls NORAD. After President Biden shuts down the coal industry, my guess is coal miners who are still out of work after completing their government provided six week bootcamp software development course, well they’re not really trying, are they? wattsupwiththat.com/2020/01/05/joe-bidens-climate-advice-to-coal-miners-learn-to-code/\Fret, I don't know why you've got yourself in such a stir about Joe Biden. He might or might not get the Democratic nod for the candidate to oppose Trump this year. Whoever is most likely to win and unseat Trump before he can do any more damage, bring 'em on. From what I see, the Democratic nominee hopefuls are not the crooks, that would be DJT and his ilk. John Bolton has offered to testify in Trump's impeachment trial. We're not even sure the President willm get to run again, yet. Bernie is running neck to neck with Biden right now, in case you missed that. As a non-American, it should be obvious that I am am in no stir about your Mr Biden, or any other US politician - even if they do think the island of Guam will capsize under the weight of 18,000 marines. It's beyond amazing that they do. I'm an observer and it seems to me that perhaps what I observe does not suit you so well. Have you ever thought that an external view might be worth considering or at least thinking about? These are polarising times, so the answer I guess has to be, not really. I would posit that Trump has just given the Iranians a real headache in more ways than one and the response to it was way less than spectacular. Did you know Bush Jr and Obama had Soleimani in the crosshairs? So did our SAS The elite forces had Soleimani in their “crosshairs” when the top-secret operation was called off - leaving him free until he was killed by a US drone strike. He had been located but the mission was abandoned on the orders of [David Miliband] the ex-Labour Foreign Secretary.
One senior military figure serving in Iraq twelve years ago told the Telegraph: “The Foreign Secretary said that he wanted to talk to the Iranians, not kill them.”
“We had Soleimani in our crosshairs, but we had to call the operation off because of sensitivities in London about conducting this type of operation.”www.thesun.co.uk/news/10672129/general-soleimani-thwarted-david-miliband/Sometimes such acts are necessary. Would you object to the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich? It was in some sense a crime. Bernie is running neck to neck with Biden right now, in case you missed that.Let me remind you of what I said just the other day. The so-called progressives are dragging the moderates way over to the left Joe Biden has tried to catch up with the Democrat cool kids, by demanding fossil fuel executives should be held accountable for the climate harm they have done.
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Joe Biden: ‘We’re All Dead’ if We Don’t Stop Using Fossil Fuelsgatesofbabylon.com/thread/26290/who-idiot-joe-bidenWhichever candidate gets the nomination, you are going to get a version of this.... Green New DealIt's some version of that madness or Donald Trump - Observing this coming November will be interesting |
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Post by beth on Jan 8, 2020 11:46:47 GMT -5
This may come as a shock but efforts to re-career deep-coal miners have been going on (and on-going) for years ... since long before the climate-change uproar ... to help deal with pollution and with unsafe working conditions.
I was part of this effort for over 2 years, as was a friend who was a deep mine inspector, working for the government.
Why do you think coal miners do not want to learn a few skills that will bring them out of the mines?
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Post by mouse on Jan 9, 2020 8:46:18 GMT -5
beth wrote ""Why do you think coal miners do not want to learn a few skills that will bring them out of the mines?""""
if they are anything like our miners there will be several reasons.. all of them valid in the eyes of the miners...…..playing on computers will be seen as cissy work.. unmanly to many men used to the life underground and dangerous work wether at the coal face or operating the machinery... these men are also used to the camaradre between them selves... age of course comes into it... its very hard to learn the sort of sckills needed... miners are not usually the most educated of people [or they wouldn't have been miners in the first place] and their main argument will be.. theres plenty of work and plenty of coal still to be brought up... so who are polititions to tell them[miners] what they should and should not work at … especially as there are cleaner ways to mine these days... polititions with their well cut suits and hands that have never toiled.....and most of all will be the argument.. that its the mine owners that have caused the environmental issues by only being concerned with profit and put nothing into clean up proceedures
Lancashire.. Derbyshire and Wales.. all big mining areas of the past....money has been spent in revitalising many of these areas.. which as now as green and pleasant as they were before the mines were sunk.....my sympathy is with the miners....used for profit and then discarded as nothing...it is morally wrong
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Post by beth on Jan 9, 2020 14:15:25 GMT -5
beth wrote ""Why do you think coal miners do not want to learn a few skills that will bring them out of the mines?"""" if they are anything like our miners there will be several reasons.. all of them valid in the eyes of the miners...…..playing on computers will be seen as cissy work.. unmanly to many men used to the life underground and dangerous work wether at the coal face or operating the machinery... these men are also used to the camaradre between them selves... age of course comes into it... its very hard to learn the sort of sckills needed... miners are not usually the most educated of people [or they wouldn't have been miners in the first place] and their main argument will be.. theres plenty of work and plenty of coal still to be brought up... so who are polititions to tell them[miners] what they should and should not work at … especially as there are cleaner ways to mine these days... polititions with their well cut suits and hands that have never toiled.....and most of all will be the argument.. that its the mine owners that have caused the environmental issues by only being concerned with profit and put nothing into clean up proceedures Lancashire.. Derbyshire and Wales.. all big mining areas of the past....money has been spent in revitalising many of these areas.. which as now as green and pleasant as they were before the mines were sunk.....my sympathy is with the miners....used for profit and then discarded as nothing...it is morally wrong In reference to this country, it isn't necessarily the older miners who need a chance at re-careering. Younger guys who hired in right out of high school or out of dead end, minimum wage jobs, are the targets. They don't necessarily see coal mining as a career, but need a chance to learn another skill and move ahead. No force applied. Just opportunity. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Jan 9, 2020 16:56:46 GMT -5
the miners....used for profit and then discarded as nothing...it is morally wrong That isn't true. If it weren't for the mining companies, none of the miners would have work in the first place. The miners would be working still were it not for radical environmentalists forcing the mines to shut down, long before they're played out. Their enemies are really the tree-hugging leftists who would rather see working people starve to death than see a baby duck covered in coal dust. |
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Post by Sysop3 on Jan 9, 2020 17:50:43 GMT -5
the miners....used for profit and then discarded as nothing...it is morally wrong That isn't true. If it weren't for the mining companies, none of the miners would have work in the first place. The miners would be working still were it not for radical environmentalists forcing the mines to shut down, long before they're played out. Their enemies are really the tree-hugging leftists who would rather see working people starve to death than see a baby duck covered in coal dust. It's not the deep mines that do most of the pollution but the strip mining. The land not only has to be restored but the sludge runs into nearby streams and causes problems for drinking water and water for general use. I can see why you don't care, Joe. You don't have to live with it. |
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Post by mouse on Jan 10, 2020 5:21:15 GMT -5
the miners....used for profit and then discarded as nothing...it is morally wrong That isn't true. If it weren't for the mining companies, none of the miners would have work in the first place. The miners would be working still were it not for radical environmentalists forcing the mines to shut down, long before they're played out. Their enemies are really the tree-hugging leftists who would rather see working people starve to death than see a baby duck covered in coal dust. no its the owners who as long as they are getting profit.. don't give a monkies about repairing the land and environment...……..we have areas which were nothing more than rubbish dumps of waste slag heaps and dereliction... but which have now been landscaped on a large scale.....the transformation is fantastic... I know of one place the shaft and lanes are still worked a little... the only reason you would know it is there is the covered in winding wheel which stands tall among the trees and grass |
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Post by fretslider on Jan 10, 2020 6:34:27 GMT -5
That isn't true. If it weren't for the mining companies, none of the miners would have work in the first place. The miners would be working still were it not for radical environmentalists forcing the mines to shut down, long before they're played out. Their enemies are really the tree-hugging leftists who would rather see working people starve to death than see a baby duck covered in coal dust. no its the owners who as long as they are getting profit.. don't give a monkies about repairing the land and environment...……..we have areas which were nothing more than rubbish dumps of waste slag heaps and dereliction... but which have now been landscaped on a large scale.....the transformation is fantastic... I know of one place the shaft and lanes are still worked a little... the only reason you would know it is there is the covered in winding wheel which stands tall among the trees and grass I won't go into the intricacies and details of Environmental Impact Assessments. But at the end of commercial activity the site has to be restored, kind of like this...  Former China clay pits in Cornwall. |
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Post by mouse on Jan 10, 2020 9:19:25 GMT -5
exactly Fret.... its not rocket science
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