josephdphillips
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Post by josephdphillips on Dec 18, 2019 11:27:41 GMT -5
He's been a shoe-in for a long time, Fret. We're at full employment and the stock market is roaring. The folks who hate Trump the most can't remember the last time an incumbent president lost re-election. They actually thing their feelings matter. Interestingly, there was a programme on the radio this morning on the impeachment of Andrew Johnson. That's where the BBC is. The left elites are way superior to the common man. They know what is best, they signal their pity and their virtue. I doubt when 2020 finally arrives there will be that great a difference over there: There is something nauseating about those with access to a media platform urging people to vote on behalf of the vulnerable. It reduces voting to an act of charity. Engaging in democracy is presented as akin to bunging a few quid to a homeless person. Worse, public declarations of voting for the vulnerable risked turning the election into a massive act of virtue-signalling. It has allowed some – mainly high-profile, wealthy individuals – to present themselves as morally superior. Unlike the rest of us, they wouldn’t be thinking of their own interests when casting a vote. www.spiked-online.com/2019/12/17/voters-dont-want-your-pity/ As my [black] neighbour told me before the last local council elections, I'm voting with my pocket. He voted Conservative. Sensible man. That comports to what I've been saying all along. Liberals believe in forced altruism, kindness at gunpoint. Fortunately the electorate here has enough common sense to distrust them, which is why Trump's re-election is assured.
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Post by Dex on Dec 18, 2019 13:33:03 GMT -5
Interestingly, there was a programme on the radio this morning on the impeachment of Andrew Johnson. That's where the BBC is. The left elites are way superior to the common man. They know what is best, they signal their pity and their virtue. I doubt when 2020 finally arrives there will be that great a difference over there: There is something nauseating about those with access to a media platform urging people to vote on behalf of the vulnerable. It reduces voting to an act of charity. Engaging in democracy is presented as akin to bunging a few quid to a homeless person. Worse, public declarations of voting for the vulnerable risked turning the election into a massive act of virtue-signalling. It has allowed some – mainly high-profile, wealthy individuals – to present themselves as morally superior. Unlike the rest of us, they wouldn’t be thinking of their own interests when casting a vote. www.spiked-online.com/2019/12/17/voters-dont-want-your-pity/ As my [black] neighbour told me before the last local council elections, I'm voting with my pocket. He voted Conservative. Sensible man. That comports to what I've been saying all along. Liberals believe in forced altruism, kindness at gunpoint. Fortunately the electorate here has enough common sense to distrust them, which is why Trump's re-election is assured. "forced altruism"? Is that another way of saying they believe in treating people equally? If most Republicans had their way, they'd maintain the status quo and the poor folks would try to exist on nuts and berries, in the wilderness. You might have missed the mark. I understand the English are happy with their health care system.
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Post by mouse on Dec 19, 2019 6:00:36 GMT -5
its not only the English who are happy with their health care its the entire UK and of course any one else who can come and scrounge a free bi op or treatment...….luckily that will come to an end..... astravelers and holiday makers and over seas workers will be expected to provide their own health insurance when the come to the UK....this is a serious proposal which is being talked of.....no insurance no treatment ... sounds fair to us
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Post by mouse on Dec 19, 2019 6:07:14 GMT -5
He's been a shoe-in for a long time, Fret. We're at full employment and the stock market is roaring. The folks who hate Trump the most can't remember the last time an incumbent president lost re-election. They actually thing their feelings matter. Interestingly, there was a programme on the radio this morning on the impeachment of Andrew Johnson. That's where the BBC is. The left elites are way superior to the common man. They know what is best, they signal their pity and their virtue. I doubt when 2020 finally arrives there will be that great a difference over there: There is something nauseating about those with access to a media platform urging people to vote on behalf of the vulnerable. It reduces voting to an act of charity. Engaging in democracy is presented as akin to bunging a few quid to a homeless person. Worse, public declarations of voting for the vulnerable risked turning the election into a massive act of virtue-signalling. It has allowed some – mainly high-profile, wealthy individuals – to present themselves as morally superior. Unlike the rest of us, they wouldn’t be thinking of their own interests when casting a vote.www.spiked-online.com/2019/12/17/voters-dont-want-your-pity/As my [black] neighbour told me before the last local council elections, I'm voting with my pocket. He voted Conservative. Sensible man. I came across this attitude that people should be placing their votes for the vunerable as poor in our society.. what a load of piffle......one votes for the government who in your opinion is best for the country as a whole...…..I begin to think that there are those who have totally lost the plot and no longer understand the basics of good governmence...or the democratic process
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Post by fretslider on Dec 19, 2019 8:13:54 GMT -5
Interestingly, there was a programme on the radio this morning on the impeachment of Andrew Johnson. That's where the BBC is. The left elites are way superior to the common man. They know what is best, they signal their pity and their virtue. I doubt when 2020 finally arrives there will be that great a difference over there: There is something nauseating about those with access to a media platform urging people to vote on behalf of the vulnerable. It reduces voting to an act of charity. Engaging in democracy is presented as akin to bunging a few quid to a homeless person. Worse, public declarations of voting for the vulnerable risked turning the election into a massive act of virtue-signalling. It has allowed some – mainly high-profile, wealthy individuals – to present themselves as morally superior. Unlike the rest of us, they wouldn’t be thinking of their own interests when casting a vote. www.spiked-online.com/2019/12/17/voters-dont-want-your-pity/ As my [black] neighbour told me before the last local council elections, I'm voting with my pocket. He voted Conservative. Sensible man. That comports to what I've been saying all along. Liberals believe in forced altruism, kindness at gunpoint. Fortunately the electorate here has enough common sense to distrust them, which is why Trump's re-election is assured. Fortunately the electorate here has enough common sense to distrust themLets hope your election result bears that out - like it did here. Americans are, after all, willing to waste much time and money on useless impeachment proceedings that will go nowhere. Ho hum.
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josephdphillips
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Post by josephdphillips on Dec 19, 2019 10:24:58 GMT -5
If most Republicans had their way, they'd maintain the status quo and the poor folks would try to exist on nuts and berries, in the wilderness. That's certainly more than the indolent and the criminal population deserve.
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Post by annaj26 on Dec 19, 2019 11:03:26 GMT -5
If most Republicans had their way, they'd maintain the status quo and the poor folks would try to exist on nuts and berries, in the wilderness. That's certainly more than the indolent and the criminal population deserve. Who are you to decide who is or is not indolent, Joseph? Are you the Gatekeeper?
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Post by josephdphillips on Dec 19, 2019 16:48:59 GMT -5
Who are you to decide who is or is not indolent The burden is on the individual to prove s/he is productive, not upon me to prove otherwise. That's the social contract, and the golden rule. I would become a Republican, if the party members weren't so liberal.
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Post by beth on Dec 19, 2019 22:41:25 GMT -5
This thread is 'way off topic.
Please get back to the subject here and start a new thread to discuss public assistance, etc..
Thanks
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Post by mouse on Dec 20, 2019 5:39:49 GMT -5
so back on topic....the Queen yesterday set out the aims of the government... many are now actually quite hopeful of a better government .. at least Boris is showing more umph than we have had for years.. and is showing some leadership and still the losers are failing to admit any responsibility for their losing.....Corbyn having a hissy fit and slamming a car door... awww didums we will be out at the end of January although gap toothed verthofstat of the eu is still trying to find a way of stopping us from leaving...…..all that sort of behaviour does is reinforce the fact that they have no respect for freewill or the rights of democratic voters.....
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Post by fretslider on Dec 20, 2019 6:59:52 GMT -5
Since the election debacle, Jeremy hasn't been entirely idle... In an interesting tactical move, Jeremy Corbyn has today appointed Tony Lloyd as his Shadow Scottish Secretary. Lloyd was born in Trafford, went to university in Nottingham, and currently represents Rochdale in Parliament. He has never lived in Scotland.
The appointment comes despite Lloyd simultaneously serving as Corbyn’s Shadow Northern Irish Secretary, and Labour’s Ian Murray clinging on to his Edinburgh South seat. Tony Lloyd is expected to work closely with the leader of Scottish Labour, Richard Leonard, who was born and raised in Yorkshire. Is it any wonder Labour’s former stronghold of Scotland now returns only one Labour MP?…order-order.com/2019/12/19/corbyn-appoints-english-mp-shadow-scottish-secretary/He seems to do better when he dithers.
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