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Post by mouse on Dec 4, 2018 6:00:29 GMT -5
Violent protests across France with Macron's popularity at rock bottom
Ugly protests across France initially sparked by ‘yellow vest’ protesters campaigning against fuel tax have continued with French President Macron’s disapproval rating having recently hit a record-high 73%. Macron was meant to be the EU establishment’s great hope. Paris saw the third weekend in a row of violence, with police deploying tear gas and stun grenades with protesters hurling objects and starting fires. There alone 133 people were injured and 412 arrested amid some incredibly disturbing scenes across the French capital.
But as The Local report this disorder was more widespread than the Paris with about 136,000 anti-government protesters, including:
Toulouse: 57 people injured including 48 police officers.
Marseille: 21 arrested, offences included looting and setting fire to a police vehicle.
Dijon: 9 arrested for ‘serious disturbances’, 10 police officers and 9 protesters injured.
Macron and his government are holding an urgent security meeting. Rather than demanding an EU Army and threatening the UK over Brexit, perhaps the French President should focus on getting his own house in order.
Macron the darling of the EU establishment.. the white hope first he fails with trump and fails with his own people ...as the rioting spreads.....across France...
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Post by mouse on Dec 4, 2018 6:15:42 GMT -5
here is another EU country wich has an underlying simmering resentment this was last AUGUST.. but the reasons remain the same ...now when country after country are protesting and the one thing they have in common is the EU. then be assured some thing is very much amis
Romania protests: Thousands rally against government for second night
Romanians gathered in Bucharest Saturday night for a second day of protests. (CNN)Tens of thousands of Romanians flooded the capital Bucharest on Saturday for a second night of anti-government protests, a day after violent clashes injured more than 400 people. About 40,000 demonstrators gathered in the city's Victoriei Square, blowing horns and shouting "Resignation!, Resignation!" to protest what they say is a corrupt government, according to Reuters.
People wave Romanian national flags during Saturday's rally. However there was not the kind of violence seen on Friday night, when the crowds were larger and police, or gendarmes, fired tear gas as they clashed with protesters, state-run news agency Agerpres reported.
Protesters gather outside government offices in Bucharest on Saturday. In a statement issued Friday night, Romania's President Klaus Iohannis condemned the "brutal intervention of the Gendarmerie," saying their actions were "strongly disproportionate with the demonstrations of the majority of people in Victoria Square." He called on the country's Interior Ministry to "urgently explain" the way in which the event was managed, saying: "The attempt to defeat the will of the people through a violent reaction of the law enforcement forces is a condemnable solution."
During Friday's rally, protesters also held a moment of silence in memory of those who died in the 1989 Revolution and several speakers accused the political system of lacking alternatives, state media reports.
On Friday night, violent clashes broke out between protesters and police. Protesters are angry over what they say is entrenched corruption, low wages and attempts by the governing Social Democrats (PSD) to weaken the judiciary, Reuters reported
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Post by mouse on Dec 5, 2018 9:06:39 GMT -5
uk.news.yahoo.com/yellow-vests-compelling-dangerous-movement-153027150.htmlgives a background as to why this happened and the interest in this movement from other European countries,and Macrons climb down is spectacular there is to be a march next saturday accused the government of adding to their misery by preparing to impose an ecological tax on fuel on 1 January. This was a sacred policy of Macon’s, as he bid to reduce the nation’s reliance on cars, bringing carbon emissions in line with the Paris Agreement on climate change. A climbdown proved inevitable, however, when thousands rioted, desecrating national monuments, including the Arc de Triomphe. There were more than 400 arrests in Paris alone last Saturday, as upmarket buildings and cars burned and shops were looted. Public order offences were the main tactics used by the gilets jaunes. They also blockaded roads and fuel refineries, destroyed speed cameras and toll booths and generally created mayhem. This generated an enormous amount of publicity for the cause, naturally, both in France and abroad. “For three weeks we’ve seen a deep anger that comes from afar,” said Edouard Philippe, Macron’s crestfallen prime minister, as he claimed to “understand the anger” and announced a six-month suspension of the green tax on Tuesday. There will also be a half-year moratorium on other fuel taxes, and on hikes in the price of gas and electricity. “We must succeed collectively,” he added, acknowledging that even those involved in violent affray have as much right to have an effect on the workings of government as anyone else. Crucially, neither Philippe nor Macron have had any significant dealings with the gilets jaunes, and nor have any other politicians. On the contrary, those who have tried to piggyback on its success have been told where to go. These include Marine Le Pen, leader of the far-right National Rally (previously the National Front) and Jean-Luc Melenchon, the hard-left firebrand and former minister who runs La France Insoumise (France Unbowed). It is this sense of grassroots non-affiliation – and, indeed, independence – that has helped to make the gilets jaunes such a powerful threat. Almost anyone with a grievance against the government can rise up against what they perceive as a corrupt and unresponsive Paris establishment. The vests themselves are a brilliant marketing tool: the brand garments were seen in large numbers in Brussels last Friday as Belgium’s gilets jaunes braved tear gas and baton charges to take on riot police. When I trailed their Paris counterparts over three Saturdays, I spoke to supporters from Italy, Spain and Britain itself, as well as plenty of others from further afield
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Post by kronks on Dec 6, 2018 2:53:24 GMT -5
It is largely a revolution against regressive taxes, from the left and the right, a rebellion against the elite. Very like Mrs May, shame we don't have similar in the UK.
Maybe we will.
She has faillede at everthing she has done.
Dunno why folk elect her.
She is like Hillary Clinton without the charisma.
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Post by mouse on Dec 6, 2018 6:13:40 GMT -5
It is largely a revolution against regressive taxes, from the left and the right, a rebellion against the elite. Very like Mrs May, shame we don't have similar in the UK.
Maybe we will. She has faillede at everthing she has done. Dunno why folk elect her. She is like Hillary Clinton without the charisma. well Macroni has said the new/raised taxes have been postponed for the time being … violence works peaceful protest does not sheeeesh she is nothing like the fragrant Hillary .. praise be...and I would sugest her longevity in politics suggests she does have charisma.. but Charisma is not necessarily a requisite for doing a job the reason she was elected was because the men of politics were worse than useless.. and still are regardless of party politics … never mind.. Europe has over the last couple of years had warnings to its rulers.. as virtually every country has had some kind of political upheaval... large or small doesn't matter...but its begun ...the realisation that its time for change and the ruling are trying by every means possible to hold on ….
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Post by mouse on Dec 6, 2018 9:37:09 GMT -5
seems they the French gove and powers that be are not looking forward to this coming Saturdays march.. and a group of politos are trying to oust Macron
the best laid plans of macron and the EU gan aft awaa
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Post by beth on Dec 6, 2018 13:15:27 GMT -5
seems they the French gove and powers that be are not looking forward to this coming Saturdays march.. and a group of politos are trying to oust Macron the best laid plans of macron and the EU gan aft awaa In other words, you'll have to wait and see how it goes?
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Post by kronks on Dec 7, 2018 4:19:48 GMT -5
It is largely a revolution against regressive taxes, from the left and the right, a rebellion against the elite. Very like Mrs May, shame we don't have similar in the UK.
Maybe we will. She has faillede at everthing she has done. Dunno why folk elect her. She is like Hillary Clinton without the charisma. well Macroni has said the new/raised taxes have been postponed for the time being … violence works peaceful protest does not sheeeesh she is nothing like the fragrant Hillary .. praise be...and I would sugest her longevity in politics suggests she does have charisma.. but Charisma is not necessarily a requisite for doing a job the reason she was elected was because the men of politics were worse than useless.. and still are regardless of party politics … never mind.. Europe has over the last couple of years had warnings to its rulers.. as virtually every country has had some kind of political upheaval... large or small doesn't matter...but its begun ...the realisation that its time for change and the ruling are trying by every means possible to hold on …. I don't think she would have done so well were it not for her husband.
Macroni is a rich man piling taxes on the poor, doing the rich man's idle whims such as climate change.
Hillaries tiny rallies show how poor a canditate she was.
She is not cut out for President.
She is only in it for personal gain anyway.
It is just a job for her, it is about her career, not the country, she will say anything to get elected, just recently
she has been speaking out against immigration in Euorpe, another U-turn.
She would say anything to be president, always following not leading.
Unlike Trump who does not care a jot who he upsets!!
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Post by mouse on Dec 7, 2018 4:36:51 GMT -5
seems they the French gove and powers that be are not looking forward to this coming Saturdays march.. and a group of politos are trying to oust Macron the best laid plans of macron and the EU gan aft awaa In other words, you'll have to wait and see how it goes? it could be a game changer or it could be a wash out... but however it goes.. Macron the white hope of the EU is politically badly hurt....yayeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee www.facebook.com/herve.enfantssages.barouf/videos/2304544992936322/
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Post by mouse on Dec 7, 2018 4:58:44 GMT -5
well Macroni has said the new/raised taxes have been postponed for the time being … violence works peaceful protest does not sheeeesh she is nothing like the fragrant Hillary .. praise be...and I would sugest her longevity in politics suggests she does have charisma.. but Charisma is not necessarily a requisite for doing a job the reason she was elected was because the men of politics were worse than useless.. and still are regardless of party politics … never mind.. Europe has over the last couple of years had warnings to its rulers.. as virtually every country has had some kind of political upheaval... large or small doesn't matter...but its begun ...the realisation that its time for change and the ruling are trying by every means possible to hold on …. I don't think she would have done so well were it not for her husband. Macroni is a rich man piling taxes on the poor, doing the rich man's idle whims such as climate change. Hillaries tiny rallies show how poor a canditate she was. She is not cut out for President. She is only in it for personal gain anyway. It is just a job for her, it is about her career, not the country, she will say anything to get elected, just recently
she has been speaking out against immigration in Euorpe, another U-turn. She would say anything to be president, always following not leading. Unlike Trump who does not care a jot who he upsets!!
if you mean May would not have done so well were it not for her husband... what on earth are you talking about ?and what has her husband got to do with things ? are you not aware that May is a long serving MP Macroni is undeed a rich man but hardly acting out whims on climate change.. he is following the instructions of the EU policy on green taxes.. he does what the EU tell him and other leaders they have to do, luckily the French take to the street and make their views known.. while we brits are pathetic and spinless ... Hillary is a liar and self server.. no better than trump trump its true and doesn't care who he upsets...which is rather refreshing given the bollox Europe and the uk are used to hearing
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Post by mouse on Dec 7, 2018 7:49:05 GMT -5
www.rt.com/news/445789-paris-riots-extra-police/?fbclid=IwAR33CP9d-czK8k0XKLrR-JJj8mbS8ztHvV6BRnSWLDjwkoPe9jW4Fglv3_M‘Final outcome’: France to deploy 89,000 cops as protesters plan massive Saturday demonstration Published time: 6 Dec, 2018 19:13 With protesters planning to converge in the Elysee Palace in Paris on Saturday, French authorities are preparing to deploy 8,000 additional officers in Paris and 89,000 nationwide. While Emmanuel Macron’s government has abandoned a controversial fuel tax hike, thousands of protesters are still planning on marching on the presidential residence on Saturday. “Saturday will be the final outcome,” Yellow Vest spokesman Eric Drouet said on Thursday. “Saturday is the Elysee, we all would like to go to the Elysee.” Also on rt.com Elysee fears ‘putschists’, coup attempt during Yellow Vests protests this weekend – media With government officials reportedly fearing a “coup attempt,” the state has dramatically expanded police presence, hoping to avoid a repeat of the violence and destruction that rocked the capital last weekend. Over 130 people were injured and more than 400 arrested on December 1. Four people, including an elderly woman, died as rioters clashed with battalions of riot police. As the interior ministry warned of an emboldened extremist fringe, Prime Minister Édouard Philippe promised that this weekend’s upcoming riots would be handled with “exceptional means.” "We are facing people who are not here to protest, but to smash and we want to have the means to not give them a free rein," Philippe told TF1's evening news show on tuesday On the street, that means that more than 75 police units will be deployed in Paris, compared to the 50 sent out last weekend. Officers have also been instructed to directly engage with protesters, prompting fears of violence above and beyond that of last weekend. Video purportedly filmed last Saturday showed officers chasing down and beating one protester to a pulp, after rioters had pelted officers with rocks and fireworks at the Arc de Triomphe earlier that day. According to French media, Philippe will also deploy “a dozen armored vehicles” to the streets of Paris. Such a deployment has not occurred since riots broke out in Paris' suburbs in 2005. Unconfirmed images from social media also appear to show the French army moving vehicles – some of them armored – towards Paris. Paris police have urged shopkeepers along the Champs-Elysees to close on Saturday, and dozens of museums and cultural sites will also be shut for the weekend, including the iconic Eiffel Tower. Against the backdrop of rising violence, President Macron’s approval rating has fallen to a new low of 23 percent, according to a poll taken last week. Another poll taken this week found that 66 percent of French agree with the protesters. At least three left-wing parties have agreed to discuss a no-confidence vote against Macron’s government on Monday. Riot police clash with Yellow Vest demonstrators at an earlier protest in Paris © AFP / Lucas Barioulet While the protests were sparked by the planned fuel tax hike, they have since evolved into a wider movement against his Europhile policies and economic reforms, which include tax breaks for businesses coupled with cuts to pensioners’ benefits. “The revolt is not just about the gas prices,” French political commentator Jean Bricmont told RT. “It’s a general revolt against the policy of the government.”
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Post by mouse on Dec 7, 2018 8:00:35 GMT -5
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Post by beth on Dec 7, 2018 10:52:36 GMT -5
Thank you, mouse. Sounds much nicer than Wiki's entry. :)
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Post by mouse on Dec 9, 2018 3:27:54 GMT -5
lots of talk yesterday with all the usual guff coming out of the politos...who are now blaiming the right and left for any violence and even the protests them selves...same pld excuses.. that no one would protest if it were not for provocoturs who wind the population up... are they these elected so contemptuous of the electorate that they think they are like sheep until either left or right wind them up and that the people will just accept any thing … remembering that until the police start acting with un-necessary heavy hands most protests are unviolent
"""""The attempt to defeat the will of the people through a violent reaction of the law enforcement forces is a condemnable solution.""""
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Post by mouse on Dec 9, 2018 5:34:19 GMT -5
seems there are some trying to storm the EU building in Brussels.. and also trouble in Hollande and other parts of France... trensions have been simmering for a while now.. although it cannot at this point be said that Europe is in flames... but its an indication that all is not well in the la la land of the EU well worth a look.. not only for information but for photographs www.dailymail.co.uk/news/index.html
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