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Post by Sysop3 on Nov 1, 2018 1:49:04 GMT -5
Of course we don't count those who try to shoot Republicans at a ballgame. Of course we DO but that one example can't make up for the many others coming from the GOP side. Let's stand up against them all, make more effective gun laws and see whether someone can confince Trump to stop pushing violence in his rallies and interviews. I agree Beth that all such people leaning toward violence should be addressed when they do something violent. Toward that end we have to be realistic about what is going on. Yes, President Trump does say things in ways that are often loud, crude, and voicing his not liking the way some others talk about him. But others, are just as bad and often far more pushing of physical action. For example, Maxine Waters, I’m sure you have heard her voice physical action chasing those of other political points of view, and their families. Then there is Eric Holder and Hillary Clinton. Their styles of talking may be different but they are focused on getting people to over react and harass people, ‘and their families. Even so, should we blame them for the acts of crazies? I don’t believe that we should blame them as the cause for acts of crazies. Maybe you do since you blame President Trump for such acts and I’m guessing, you’d apply the same standards to those mentioned. Waters does not have the same kind of influence Trump does with people who seem to be potentially violent, but you're right, they both should have enough responsibility to back off what they do. Kenya West would probably be more influential than Watrs, but he has sensibly decided to move away from politics and act more like the entertainer he is. Donald Trump is an entertainer, too but he needs to be more responsible now. It there's more violence, I won't blqame Waters without looking at Trump first.
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Post by mouse on Nov 1, 2018 6:01:56 GMT -5
all I see are excuses...those against trump were rioting [called a march] and breaking windows the day after he was elected and chanting not my president the pretend head of trump .. a sleb wanting to thump him and a whole raft of other instances including some one in the elected chamber of government saying he would stop at nothing to get trump out and on and on .. from day one some people use words and would deny they are trying to incite... others take a more hands on approach... neither side can claim a moral high ground or for that matter innocence in the attacks both verbal and written ... and its all summed up in this """ I won't blqame Waters without looking at Trump first.""""
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Post by annaj26 on Nov 1, 2018 10:48:24 GMT -5
all I see are excuses...those against trump were rioting [called a march] and breaking windows the day after he was elected and chanting not my president the pretend head of trump .. a sleb wanting to thump him and a whole raft of other instances including some one in the elected chamber of government saying he would stop at nothing to get trump out and on and on .. from day one some people use words and would deny they are trying to incite... others take a more hands on approach... neither side can claim a moral high ground or for that matter innocence in the attacks both verbal and written ... and its all summed up in this """ I won't blame Waters without looking at Trump first."""" She doesn't do or say half as bad as Trump at any given time.
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Post by annaj26 on Nov 1, 2018 10:55:08 GMT -5
all I see are excuses...those against trump were rioting [called a march] and breaking windows the day after he was elected and chanting not my president the pretend head of trump .. a sleb wanting to thump him and a whole raft of other instances including some one in the elected chamber of government saying he would stop at nothing to get trump out and on and on .. from day one some people use words and would deny they are trying to incite... others take a more hands on approach... neither side can claim a moral high ground or for that matter innocence in the attacks both verbal and written ... and its all summed up in this """ I won't blqame Waters without looking at Trump first."""" mouse, most of us are not against Trump - as a person. Tell him to base his thoughts and actions on things besides "me me me" and stop lying. The results would be fantastic, I guarantee. he's not a nice human being. Even most of his fans accept that.
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Post by mouse on Nov 2, 2018 4:24:51 GMT -5
all I see are excuses...those against trump were rioting [called a march] and breaking windows the day after he was elected and chanting not my president the pretend head of trump .. a sleb wanting to thump him and a whole raft of other instances including some one in the elected chamber of government saying he would stop at nothing to get trump out and on and on .. from day one some people use words and would deny they are trying to incite... others take a more hands on approach... neither side can claim a moral high ground or for that matter innocence in the attacks both verbal and written ... and its all summed up in this """ I won't blqame Waters without looking at Trump first."""" mouse, most of us are not against Trump - as a person. Tell him to base his thoughts and actions on things besides "me me me" and stop lying. The results would be fantastic, I guarantee. he's not a nice human being. Even most of his fans accept that. not against him as a person.....I doubt any one any where would believe that considering what has been said and written about him whether true of untrue the whole point is he was legaly elected...he was the choice of other peoples freedoms to elect a representative
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