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Post by Sysop3 on Aug 16, 2018 0:30:28 GMT -5
Judy Patrick, VP of Editorial Development for the New York Press Association - COMMENTARY We’ve been complacent. We thought everybody knew how important a free press was to our world and that all this talk about us being the enemy of the people would be dismissed for the silliness that it is. ut the reckless attacks have continued, instigated and encouraged by our president. When the leader of the free world works to erode the public’s trust in the media, the potential for damage is enormous, both here and abroad. We once set an example of free and open government for the world to follow. Now those who seek to suppress the free flow of information are doing so with impunity. The time has come for us to stand up to the bullying. The role journalism plays in our free society is too crucial to allow this degradation to continue. We aren’t the enemy of the people. We are the people. We aren’t fake news. We are your news and we struggle night and day to get the facts right. On bitter cold January nights, we’re the people’s eyes and ears at town, village and school board meetings. We tell the stories of our communities, from the fun of a county fair to the despair a family faces when a loved one is killed. We are always by your side. We shop the same stores, attend the same churches and hike the same trails. We struggle with daycare and worry about paying for retirement. In our work as journalists, our first loyalty is to you. Our work is guided by a set of principles that demand objectivity, independence, open-mindedness and the pursuit of the truth. We make mistakes, we know. There’s nothing we hate more than errors but we acknowledge them, correct them and learn from them. Our work is a labor of love because we love our country and believe we are playing a vital role in our democracy. Self-governance demands that our citizens need to be well-informed and that’s what we’re here to do. We go beyond the government issued press release or briefing and ask tough questions. We hold people in power accountable for their actions. Some think we’re rude to question and challenge. We know it’s our obligation. People have been criticizing the press for generations. We are not perfect. But we’re striving every day to be a better version of ourselves than we were the day before. That’s why we welcome criticism. But unwarranted attacks that undermine your trust in us cannot stand. The problem has become so serious that newspapers across the nation are speaking out against these attacks in one voice today on their editorial pages. As women’s rights pioneer and investigative journalist Ida B. Wells wrote in 1892: “The people must know before they can act and there is no educator to compare with the press.” www.rawstory.com/2018/08/president-trumps-reckless-attacks-press-real-threat-american-democracy/16 Aug 2018 at 01:15 ET
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Post by toby1 on Aug 24, 2018 8:06:54 GMT -5
""People have been criticizing the press for generations. We are not perfect. But we’re striving every day to be a better version of ourselves than we were the day before."" The Press has become biased, there is NO argument about this, the days of unbiased Journalism are long past !
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Post by men an tol on Aug 24, 2018 15:25:33 GMT -5
The August 16th article by Judy Patrick paints a picture of a misused free press, one which is target of those who wish to twist truth into ‘other’ agendas. I wish what she writes was the guiding light of those in the news, I wish it was the truth, and for a few, a very few, that may be true.
However, the news ‘businesses’ has become a desire (if not a need) to develop and increase readers. For many in the news business that means they pander to beliefs of potential readers. To some extent this may be expected in the editorial page, but not in the news reporting of what, who, when, why, and how, and it is there in that news that bias has crept and is growing ever larger.
The news media members seem to increasingly blame those as objects in the news stories for this because they defame the news media members with less than positive descriptions. And yet, it seems that many (a growing number) in the news business defame them selves by simply repeating words of others in the business without checking the veracity of the story. That rather than dig out the facts of a potential story, they act as a pack of hyenas crawling over each other to grab a small portion of victim flesh and declare it the entire body.
No, it is not the targets of their stories, but rather the news media members themselves who (seemingly eagerly) crawl through slime to create some story that often is not true. It is the members themselves of the media who have (and are) staining the reputation of the 4th Estate. The news media members are the ones defining what is truth in their stories, even when it is not truth.
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Post by Jessiealan on Aug 24, 2018 18:13:48 GMT -5
The August 16th article by Judy Patrick paints a picture of a misused free press, one which is target of those who wish to twist truth into ‘other’ agendas. I wish what she writes was the guiding light of those in the news, I wish it was the truth, and for a few, a very few, that may be true. However, the news ‘businesses’ has become a desire (if not a need) to develop and increase readers. For many in the news business that means they pander to beliefs of potential readers. To some extent this may be expected in the editorial page, but not in the news reporting of what, who, when, why, and how, and it is there in that news that bias has crept and is growing ever larger. The news media members seem to increasingly blame those as objects in the news stories for this because they defame the news media members with less than positive descriptions. And yet, it seems that many (a growing number) in the news business defame them selves by simply repeating words of others in the business without checking the veracity of the story. That rather than dig out the facts of a potential story, they act as a pack of hyenas crawling over each other to grab a small portion of victim flesh and declare it the entire body. No, it is not the targets of their stories, but rather the news media members themselves who (seemingly eagerly) crawl through slime to create some story that often is not true. It is the members themselves of the media who have (and are) staining the reputation of the 4th Estate. The news media members are the ones defining what is truth in their stories, even when it is not truth. \ Some press/media are better than others, just as some national officials are better than others. I do not want news stories that try to gloss over the actual situation or try to bolster up those in high office who are corrupt to the bone. I get a little tired of Ronan Farrow sometimes because it is so obvious to me he is only fishing for a story that will bolster his own reputation as a writer. But, over all, I believe the press in this country is good. ps. This does not apply to the National Enquirer and other tabloids which are scum for the most part.
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Post by men an tol on Aug 24, 2018 18:26:46 GMT -5
The August 16th article by Judy Patrick paints a picture of a misused free press, one which is target of those who wish to twist truth into ‘other’ agendas. I wish what she writes was the guiding light of those in the news, I wish it was the truth, and for a few, a very few, that may be true. However, the news ‘businesses’ has become a desire (if not a need) to develop and increase readers. For many in the news business that means they pander to beliefs of potential readers. To some extent this may be expected in the editorial page, but not in the news reporting of what, who, when, why, and how, and it is there in that news that bias has crept and is growing ever larger. The news media members seem to increasingly blame those as objects in the news stories for this because they defame the news media members with less than positive descriptions. And yet, it seems that many (a growing number) in the news business defame them selves by simply repeating words of others in the business without checking the veracity of the story. That rather than dig out the facts of a potential story, they act as a pack of hyenas crawling over each other to grab a small portion of victim flesh and declare it the entire body. No, it is not the targets of their stories, but rather the news media members themselves who (seemingly eagerly) crawl through slime to create some story that often is not true. It is the members themselves of the media who have (and are) staining the reputation of the 4th Estate. The news media members are the ones defining what is truth in their stories, even when it is not truth. \ Some press/media are better than others, just as some national officials are better than others. I do not want news stories that try to gloss over the actual situation or try to bolster up those in high office who are corrupt to the bone. I get a little tired of Ronan Farrow sometimes because it is so obvious to me he is only fishing for a story that will bolster his own reputation as a writer. But, over all, I believe the press in this country is good. ps. This does not apply to the National Enquirer and other tabloids which are scum for the most part. Nor do I think that it applied to ews media when I was young, as it was then considered an honored profession.
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Post by Sysop3 on Aug 24, 2018 22:28:37 GMT -5
The August 16th article by Judy Patrick paints a picture of a misused free press, one which is target of those who wish to twist truth into ‘other’ agendas. I wish what she writes was the guiding light of those in the news, I wish it was the truth, and for a few, a very few, that may be true. However, the news ‘businesses’ has become a desire (if not a need) to develop and increase readers. For many in the news business that means they pander to beliefs of potential readers. To some extent this may be expected in the editorial page, but not in the news reporting of what, who, when, why, and how, and it is there in that news that bias has crept and is growing ever larger. The news media members seem to increasingly blame those as objects in the news stories for this because they defame the news media members with less than positive descriptions. And yet, it seems that many (a growing number) in the news business defame them selves by simply repeating words of others in the business without checking the veracity of the story. That rather than dig out the facts of a potential story, they act as a pack of hyenas crawling over each other to grab a small portion of victim flesh and declare it the entire body. No, it is not the targets of their stories, but rather the news media members themselves who (seemingly eagerly) crawl through slime to create some story that often is not true. It is the members themselves of the media who have (and are) staining the reputation of the 4th Estate. The news media members are the ones defining what is truth in their stories, even when it is not truth. You think they're being too rough on Trump? They're being way too easy on him. If Nixon had the same record and associations as Trump, they would have eaten him alive.
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Post by men an tol on Aug 24, 2018 23:50:42 GMT -5
The August 16th article by Judy Patrick paints a picture of a misused free press, one which is target of those who wish to twist truth into ‘other’ agendas. I wish what she writes was the guiding light of those in the news, I wish it was the truth, and for a few, a very few, that may be true. However, the news ‘businesses’ has become a desire (if not a need) to develop and increase readers. For many in the news business that means they pander to beliefs of potential readers. To some extent this may be expected in the editorial page, but not in the news reporting of what, who, when, why, and how, and it is there in that news that bias has crept and is growing ever larger. The news media members seem to increasingly blame those as objects in the news stories for this because they defame the news media members with less than positive descriptions. And yet, it seems that many (a growing number) in the news business defame them selves by simply repeating words of others in the business without checking the veracity of the story. That rather than dig out the facts of a potential story, they act as a pack of hyenas crawling over each other to grab a small portion of victim flesh and declare it the entire body. No, it is not the targets of their stories, but rather the news media members themselves who (seemingly eagerly) crawl through slime to create some story that often is not true. It is the members themselves of the media who have (and are) staining the reputation of the 4th Estate. The news media members are the ones defining what is truth in their stories, even when it is not truth. You think they're being too rough on Trump? They're being way too easy on him. If Nixon had the same record and associations as Trump, they would have eaten him alive. No, you miss my entire point. If they have factual stories about President Trump, then use them. That is their job. Actually use the facts they find. Dig into them, verify them, print such stories as they wish. But that is not what is increasingly happening. Instead they have political views that color the focus and direction of their stories. Just facts and then only the facts. That is what was at one time taught in schools to become a reporter. Look at how you changed the posting of mine, I never mentioned President Trump and instead was focusing on decreasing ethics of those in the news media. To me that was the important point no matter who was the focus of a news story. You changed the focus of my posting making it about President Trump and then using that to define him as bad, just as if 'you'were in the news media. The idea te news media should be ethical seems to have diminished depending on who is the object of their story, and where it is not clear, they rewrite the story as if it were true. Just as you did with the intent of my posting. I admit t my personal belief that the news media should not be bias and not out to get someone, no matter the facts of the story, just as you changed the posting I made.
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Post by mouse on Aug 25, 2018 3:54:50 GMT -5
""""The idea the news media should be ethical seems to have diminished depending on who is the object of their story,"""
exactly and some how news reporting has almost become an extention of the sleb culture ...with reports sometimes mistaking sleb addiction for actuall news and the twisting of non news happenings into pretending news to suit an agenda and its no use pretending to be horrified by some misreporting while not being horrified by other misreportings the deliberate misreporting into actuall untruths of trumps UK visit is a prime example of non ethical reporting … the reportings of the mass migration into Europe from the middle east/asia/Africa couldn't have been more media manipulative if it tried.. out right lies and sloppy journalism....are becoming the order of the day …. it isn't just an American experience either ...its right across the globe that standards have droppedto dance to various agendas
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