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Post by Jessiealan on May 24, 2018 13:16:07 GMT -5
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josephdphillips
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Post by josephdphillips on May 24, 2018 17:47:17 GMT -5
Oh please. Give me a break. Abraham Lincoln was the most authoritarian of all our presidents, and also the best.
Plus Trump is now more popular than our authoritarian governor, Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown.
Authoritarianism is only bad for the people who lose elections. Boo-hoo.
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Post by Jessiealan on May 24, 2018 18:32:39 GMT -5
Oh please. Give me a break. Abraham Lincoln was the most authoritarian of all our presidents, and also the best. Plus Trump is now more popular than our authoritarian governor, Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown. Authoritarianism is only bad for the people who lose elections. Boo-hoo. If it were authoriantism built on truth and trust, that would be one thing Joseph, but it is built on lies and almost definite corruption. Face it. He's no good.
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Post by fretslider on May 25, 2018 4:10:02 GMT -5
Oh please. Give me a break. Abraham Lincoln was the most authoritarian of all our presidents, and also the best. Plus Trump is now more popular than our authoritarian governor, Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown. Authoritarianism is only bad for the people who lose elections. Boo-hoo. I heard California may be breaking up into as many as three parts. That would be some legacy.
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Post by fretslider on May 25, 2018 4:13:00 GMT -5
I see what they're attempting but its all wrong. Where does socialism exist in the US?
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Post by Dex on May 25, 2018 7:54:32 GMT -5
It is not wrong, Fret. This is the way my family has seen it almost from the start. Trump taking advantage of his office in any way and every way possible to scam for himself and his family.
This was on TV this morning and my dad copied and asked me to listen. Then, I found it online. If Blair had of pulled off half the things Trump has already managed, you be having a melt down.
Don Lemon, CNN
The American presidency has always come with vast executive powers, but until Donald Trump much of that power has gone unused.
Are we seeing a new model of the presidency where the norms that had defined the office, and the country, go out the window?
CNN’s Don Lemon opened his show with an epic takedown of Trump and his family, who he said are “stomping all over the norms that have kept the government running for centuries.”
The discussion started off with the news that Trump has bullied the NFL into a policy change meant to enforce patriotic displays and that he brought his own lawyer, Emmett Flood, to a meeting with lawmakers in which sensitive intelligence about Russia was discussed.
He had guest Fareed Zakaria on to talk about the Trumps.
“I’ve never seen anything like it,” said Zakaria.
Lemon compared Trump to the Obamas—classy, upstanding, ethical.
“This is completely different,” he said. “Just objectively if you look at this president and this president it seems to be a family of grifters who have gotten ahold of the executive offices and are using it for their own purposes.”
“My big fear is forget about what happens in the next few years. Will the next person that becomes president say I don’t have to release my tax returns? I don’t have to resign from my tax businesses, Trump didn’t. I don’t have to tell my lawyers to recuse themselves at various points?” Zakaria asked. “That kind of thing is not a one time blip, but we have a slow degradation of the norms and all of a sudden we’re not that different from Turkey down the road.”
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Post by josephdphillips on May 25, 2018 10:02:58 GMT -5
lies and almost definite corruption. Face it. He's no good. He hasn't lied to me, and he's all good. You'll have your chance in 2024, Jessie. :)
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Post by josephdphillips on May 25, 2018 12:25:18 GMT -5
I heard California may be breaking up into as many as three parts. You heard wrong. The rest of the country wouldn't allow it, for obvious reasons.
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Post by Sysop3 on May 25, 2018 13:39:15 GMT -5
lies and almost definite corruption. Face it. He's no good. He hasn't lied to me, and he's all good. You'll have your chance in 2024, Jessie. Sure he lies to you. Take your fingers out of your ears.
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Post by josephdphillips on May 25, 2018 15:35:22 GMT -5
Sure he lies to you. Take your fingers out of your ears. He hasn't lied about the need to keep out muslims. He hasn't lied about the need to control our borders. He hasn't lied about criminal gang members being animals. He hasn't lied about the scum that shoot at police. He hasn't lied about needing to kill Obamacare. He hasn't lied about moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. Which lies are you talking about?
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Post by Jessiealan on May 25, 2018 19:29:07 GMT -5
Sure he lies to you. Take your fingers out of your ears. He hasn't lied about the need to keep out muslims. He hasn't lied about the need to control our borders. He hasn't lied about criminal gang members being animals. He hasn't lied about the scum that shoot at police. He hasn't lied about needing to kill Obamacare. He hasn't lied about moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem. Which lies are you talking about? Joseph, those are opinions, not facts. Opinions do not consist of lies and truth but only the way they seem to each and every one of us. Go to Google and then to any Fact Check site. When asked, they will give you a multitude of Trump lies. If you know what you are looking for it will be even easier. Over 3,000 so far if I'm not mistaken. You have a college edu, you should be able to understand things like that.
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Post by fretslider on May 26, 2018 2:36:23 GMT -5
I heard California may be breaking up into as many as three parts. You heard wrong. The rest of the country wouldn't allow it, for obvious reasons. You mean a bit like the EU and the UK? Funny that.
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Post by mouse on May 26, 2018 5:55:19 GMT -5
""""If Blair had of pulled off half the things Trump has already managed, you be having a melt down""""
blair lied and took us in to an ilegal war based on a lie...trump has done nothing comparable blair murdered and committed war crimes ... who has trump murdered and what war crimes is he guilty of blair sent off troops to war without even kitting them out properly ... has trump done that blair allowed brown to sell off the nations wealth for a pittance... has trump done that bl;air deliberately and wantonly altered the demographics of the UK by unlimited immigration .. in other words ethnic cleasnsing blair was nothing more than a lickspittal to any one who he thought would would enrich him personally in money or reputation from Bush whose poodle he was and the Irak/Afghan fiascos to the dictatorships of the Stans..and the Middle east such as Gadafi
trump has a long way to go to match the evil that blair has done
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Post by toby1 on May 26, 2018 15:32:59 GMT -5
""trump has a long way to go to match the evil that blair has done" This is true and there is also the question of Blairs Parliamentary expenses just having,'disappeared'. When most of the MP's were found to have wilfully defrauded the Taxpayers, they were let off instead of being put in jail for fraud, some of the sums were in excess of 100,000 pounds sterling !! Blairs expenses just vanished, all records were expunged and nobody knows who did it or if they do, they are not saying !
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Post by josephdphillips on May 29, 2018 11:33:20 GMT -5
those are opinions, not facts. No, it's all opinion. Trump is doing a great job, and will be easily re-elected.
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