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Post by mouse on Apr 5, 2017 5:26:33 GMT -5
talking about beliefes there are many beliefs.. so I will stick to things we all know or have heard about..its part and parcel of our joint heritage and commonalities so do you believe in any of the following.. if so why and what do you bring as proof and if you do not why not does or did father Christmas/ Santa claus exist
does the tooth fairy exist
do Faries exist
do goblins..elves..pixies exist
does the devil/satan exist
does the lochness monster exist
does the Yeti exist
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Post by beth on Apr 5, 2017 10:02:48 GMT -5
talking about beliefes there are many beliefs.. so I will stick to things we all know or have heard about..its part and parcel of our joint heritage and commonalities so do you believe in any of the following.. if so why and what do you bring as proof and if you do not why not does or did father Christmas/ Santa claus exist does the tooth fairy exist do Faries exist do goblins..elves..pixies exist does the devil/satan exist does the lochness monster exist does the Yeti exist Of course they do ... all of them. Living the good life in the minds of many, many people.
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Post by mouse on Apr 6, 2017 2:08:39 GMT -5
good answer Beth
the earliest known[sober] report of a sighting of Nessy of the Loch was by Saint Columbas
son2 was always desperate that there was a monster as a little boy.. we once spent two days on the midge infested banks of the Loch ..during which time he barely took his eyes off the waters he was so intent on seeing the monster...needless tp say he was not rewarded with a sighting.. but over centuries the locals have said theve had sightings and some early car tourists[some not imaginative people] BUT it I heard or read that theres a passage way to the Sea from the locg..so who knows most sightings with photos have been explained as the light on waves due to the way the waters flow/eddy
the Yeti stories are as different again..a large dark looking humanoid photographed in Russia and many tales of its existence and a long history of sightings by the mountain peoples in the mountains of the Himalyas also huge foot prints found over the centuries..one of which was photoed and measured.. so who knows what going ter getcha
I KNOW the tooth fairy exists..because it used to charge me £1 to take away the tooths the children had put under their pillows
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 5, 2017 18:59:09 GMT -5
talking about beliefes there are many beliefs.. so I will stick to things we all know or have heard about..its part and parcel of our joint heritage and commonalities so do you believe in any of the following.. if so why and what do you bring as proof and if you do not why not does or did father Christmas/ Santa claus exist does the tooth fairy exist do Faries exist do goblins..elves..pixies exist does the devil/satan exist does the lochness monster exist does the Yeti exist Hi Mouse, Santa Claus is another way of saying Saint Nicholas who lived somewhere in Europe. One time at least, he gave money to the poor, maybe he was able to persuede the rich to do the same? Anyway, some bright spark thought up the idea of continuing gift giving in order to help the economy along. Sant Nicholas did exist. Fairies and elves etc. are purportedly real, as people have said they have seen them, they have even been believed to have been photographed in the past. As a child, I used to go looking for them in the undergrowth, expecting to find one sitting on a toadstool. As for the Yeti and the Loch Ness Monster, they are thought to have been photographed too. So I believe that they also exist. The tooth fairy, I'm not so sure, but I made use of the custom, so was pretty happy about it all.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 2:09:47 GMT -5
indeed st Niklous did give gifts of food to the poor upon st stephens day.. some where in deepest Europe....the traditional garb is indicative of old medieval eastern Europe
I understand the gift giving in northen Europe pre dates him though and is more related to the gifts of the three magi and the Christ child ..
I remember reading about Christmases as celebrated in medieval England and the gift of a hand illustrated prayer book to.. I think it was Queen Matilda
castles/maor houses used to be decorated with greenery and oranges pierced with herbs and spices which had more to do with Yule and the big winter feasting than it did with any religious notions
the two celebrations became so intertwined due to pragmatism.. its difficult to know where one ends and the other begings
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 8, 2017 1:26:30 GMT -5
indeed st Niklous did give gifts of food to the poor upon st stephens day.. some where in deepest Europe....the traditional garb is indicative of old medieval eastern Europe I understand the gift giving in northen Europe pre dates him though and is more related to the gifts of the three magi and the Christ child .. I remember reading about Christmases as celebrated in medieval England and the gift of a hand illustrated prayer book to.. I think it was Queen Matilda castles/maor houses used to be decorated with greenery and oranges pierced with herbs and spices which had more to do with Yule and the big winter feasting than it did with any religious notions the two celebrations became so intertwined due to pragmatism.. its difficult to know where one ends and the other begings Hi LittleM2, I would say that they are two separate incidents. One in memory of Saint Nicholas. The other for the babe that was to be born which no doubt had to do with His ministry. There was Frankincense and Myrrh, I have forgotton the other, but it all meant something, a quality of somekind perhaps?
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Post by mouse on May 8, 2017 4:54:06 GMT -5
two separate incidents both put together and joined become the gift giving at chrismas time
Frankincense and Myrrh it was Gold--Frankincense and Myrrh
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