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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 12, 2017 7:45:13 GMT -5
Some say god is a wee bit twitchy... I am presuming that Rebazar Tarzs' religion was Jainism and was passed on to Paul Twitchell when it was dictated to him, so must be one and the same. Paul only chose the name ECKANKAR.
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Post by mouse on Oct 12, 2017 7:56:53 GMT -5
are you trying to tell us that abe..moshe..and Jesus were not suiting Gods purpose and therefore a 2nd rate writer of SCIFI was chosen to lead mankind on behalf of God... that is a bit of a stretch too far and an ex jainist forms a new cult and your supprised the new cult by the ex Jainist is very similar to Jainism........ oh please .. why are you falling for this tripe and nonsence Do you ever use your brains? Being a writer is only part of it. Paul Twitchell was a very spiritual person and a SEEKER to boot. He fitted the kind of person who was needed to bring the message to the West. God knows the mind and heart of everyone so nothing is hidden.!!! why don't you answer the question .. are you trying to tell us that abe..moshe..and Jesus were not suiting Gods purpose and therefore a 2nd rate writer of SCIFI was chosen to lead mankind on behalf of God...
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Post by mouse on Oct 12, 2017 7:59:57 GMT -5
still no answer..so forgetting twitchall try and answer its a simple question this part are you trying to tell us that abe..moshe..and Jesus were not suiting Gods purpose
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 12, 2017 8:32:25 GMT -5
Do you ever use your brains? Being a writer is only part of it. Paul Twitchell was a very spiritual person and a SEEKER to boot. He fitted the kind of person who was needed to bring the message to the West. God knows the mind and heart of everyone so nothing is hidden.!!! why don't you answer the question .. are you trying to tell us that abe..moshe..and Jesus were not suiting Gods purpose and therefore a 2nd rate writer of SCIFI was chosen to lead mankind on behalf of God... I have answered your question I gave you the reason why Paul Twitchell was chosen. Each Soul is as important as the next one. Things are as they are.!!!
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Post by Dex on Oct 12, 2017 17:46:00 GMT -5
When we were kids in Sunday School we learned the parable about the sheep and the goats. The only thing I remember is ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ "Whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ I looked it up and the whole thing is here www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25:31-46It is pretty much to the point. I can find no reference what so ever about calling evil men evil men .. yup even calling evil men sumbags..its all about deeds Matthew 25:31-46English Standard Version (ESV) The Final Judgment 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
It's about how you treat other people, mouse. There's probably other verses somewhere in the Bible about being judgmental.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 13, 2017 2:57:53 GMT -5
"" Therefore, if you profess to love Jesus, then it means that you automatically love Mankind. Not necessarily their deeds. Each person will be judged on their own merits.!!!""" any one who doesn't hate evil.cruelty is sick in the head and any one who thinks that the deeds of pol pot..stalin etc are acceptable and that those men should not be hated because their victim were simply on the receiving of karma due to prior lives is also sick in the head """"Therefore, if you profess to love Jesus, then it means that you automatically love Mankind. Not necessarily their deeds. Each person will be judged on their own merits.!!!""" that is arrant nonsence for didn't Jesus say that it were better for those who hurt children..it was better they be thrown into a mill pond and drowned before they were allowed to hurt children ? indeed there may be judgement day when all will answer for their sins but remember the words render unto Ceaser that which is Ceasors[spelling] and unto God that which is Gods......a very clear instruction that the laws of man/the state have a place as well as the laws of God the way some mangle and twist the thinking of religions and are used as excuses for evil doings is appalling .. and to excuse bestiality and inhumanity in its lowest forms as an excuse to do nothing is a travesty and a mockery of any advances humanity has made mankind cannot be separated from the dark deeds of mankind....any more than it can be separated from the glorious deeds of mankind ..each leaves a legacy for following generations Jesus is trying to get people to see sense.it is a warning.
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Post by mouse on Oct 13, 2017 3:58:58 GMT -5
I can find no reference what so ever about calling evil men evil men .. yup even calling evil men sumbags..its all about deeds Matthew 25:31-46English Standard Version (ESV) so calling evil men evil men or more modern terminology scumbags etc is not allowed... how very weird.. and it doesn't actually seem right especially as we are talking about God who had no hesitation in wiping out cities or considered tying millstones around the neck and throwing into a pond a suitable punishment for men who prey on children
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Post by mouse on Oct 13, 2017 4:02:49 GMT -5
I can find no reference what so ever about calling evil men evil men .. yup even calling evil men sumbags..its all about deeds Matthew 25:31-46English Standard Version (ESV) The Final Judgment 31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will place the sheep on his right, but the goats on the left. 34 Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
It's about how you treat other people, mouse. There's probably other verses somewhere in the Bible about being judgmental. so the word scumbag as a description for known criminals is judgmental ? what ever happened to an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
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Post by Dex on Oct 13, 2017 10:37:07 GMT -5
what ever happened to an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth Hammurabi's Code: An Eye for an Eye. ... "An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth." This phrase, along with the idea of written laws, goes back to ancient Mesopotamian culture that prospered long before the Bible was written or the civilizations of the Greeks or Romans flowered. They probably just moved on to a more civilized society.
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Post by men an tol on Oct 13, 2017 11:24:24 GMT -5
what ever happened to an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth Hammurabi's Code: An Eye for an Eye. ... "An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth." This phrase, along with the idea of written laws, goes back to ancient Mesopotamian culture that prospered long before the Bible was written or the civilizations of the Greeks or Romans flowered. They probably just moved on to a more civilized society. Not disputing anything as you are correct with the reference, just a small note. The Hammurabi Code of an eye for an eye, etc., meant that if a person lost an eye due to the act of another, the injured party could require punishment for that loss but could not do more that the degree of harm he had received. For example, if some one lost an eye due to the act of another, the injured could not demand the death of the one doing the harm but only equal harm. Most such injuries were also defined in value. Say that an eye was valued at a specific monetary amount, the injured party could not demand a larger sum. With these laws controlling punishment the acts between two families could be controlled. Other societies developed similar laws.
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Post by mouse on Oct 14, 2017 2:34:03 GMT -5
what ever happened to an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth Hammurabi's Code: An Eye for an Eye. ... "An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth." This phrase, along with the idea of written laws, goes back to ancient Mesopotamian culture that prospered long before the Bible was written or the civilizations of the Greeks or Romans flowered. They probably just moved on to a more civilized society. yes I do know its not in the bible.. however it was a very common punishment.. still is in some parts of the world as to wether we are more civilised its hard to say.. SLwrote"""Therefore, if you profess to love Jesus, then it means that you automatically love Mankind. Not necessarily their deeds. Each person will be judged on their own merits.!!!""" I still fail to see what is wrong with calling a criminal a criminal.. a scumbag a scumbag..calling a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel or how it relates to Jesus. it doesn't make any sense.. just out of interest this is a quite recent case of an eye for an eye or Blood money which comes from a similar concept www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/05/sharia-law-diyya-saudiFriday 5 April 2013 17.35 BST A case in Saudi Arabia where a young man is facing medically induced paralysis for stabbing and paralysing another has caused international outrage. It has even drawn condemnation from the Saudi royal establishment, prompting Princess Basma bint Saud of Saudi Arabia to condemn the judgment on the BBC on Thursday. This is the second time such a punishment has been proposed in the country. Two years ago, the Saudi courts approached hospitals inquiring about the possibility of inducing spinal paralysis in a similar case. The macabre nature of these sentences is highly unusual even for Saudi Arabia, reflecting a particularly technical, obsessively literalist and extrapolative interpretation of Islamic law. But behind these cases lies a more problematic tenet: that of diyya, blood money paid in compensation to the family of the victim, and which the young man in question failed to raise. Diyya is paid instead of the implementation of qisas – legal retribution. Originally, the religious prescription to seek diyya in lieu of punishment was seen as a way of preventing bad blood fomenting between communities and encouraging compromise. In the modern age it is an inexact science which commoditises justice, where the price of crime is arbitrarily determined by the state. An eye for an eye … unless you can afford to be spared. BY the way there was such world outrage this punishment was not carried out
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Post by mouse on Oct 14, 2017 3:05:48 GMT -5
here is a case of blood money being paid.. or it could be called compensation paying out blood monies is a very good get out from punishment for the rich/wealthy.. where an eye for an eye can cut right across the board
""""Diyya however, does present a powerful imperative, one to which the United States, for example, is not immune. When its CIA operative Raymond Davis shot and killed two locals in Pakistan, the US government paid a generous diyya to the families of the victims and purchased his freedom."""
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 14, 2017 10:43:33 GMT -5
Do you ever use your brains? Being a writer is only part of it. Paul Twitchell was a very spiritual person and a SEEKER to boot. He fitted the kind of person who was needed to bring the message to the West. God knows the mind and heart of everyone so nothing is hidden.!!! why don't you answer the question .. are you trying to tell us that abe..moshe..and Jesus were not suiting Gods purpose and therefore a 2nd rate writer of SCIFI was chosen to lead mankind on behalf of God... Why not? Paul Twitchell is one of God's children too despite how you see him.
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Post by mouse on Oct 15, 2017 4:09:34 GMT -5
so now you are saying that Twitchell is the equal of Jesus.. Mose.. Abraham...
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Oct 15, 2017 20:04:32 GMT -5
still no answer..so forgetting twitchall try and answer its a simple question this part are you trying to tell us that abe..moshe..and Jesus were not suiting Gods purpose If we are all Soul as ECKists believe, that makes God our Father just as Jesus said that He was. How wonderful.!!!
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