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Post by beth on Sept 16, 2016 9:59:25 GMT -5
I doubt if you'd be able to find many college age people who would appreciate a paraent jumping in between them and their course work. Most of us are adults or close to it. The course work was probably given to them in advance and it was their choice. Your next move is to respect their choices. """who would appreciate a paraent jumping"""" mmmmmm I wonder if they would also object to financial help from those same parents???or turn down financial help from parents or tax payers"" ""Most of us are adults or close to it """and why should any one respect their choices  and if adults and wanting to be treated as adults then isn't it incumbent on student to behave as adults and face up to the realities of life which includes being totally self suporting By the time they are in college, they're moving into their own worlds. At some point, you have to let go of meddling in their awakenings and be satisfied to keep a watchful eye from a distance (in case a serious situation presents itself). |
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Post by mouse on Sept 16, 2016 12:16:25 GMT -5
I wasn't thinking just America we have total crackpots here as well
who cares what the media wants...the truth is these people exist and do considerable damage..and that damage is quite long lasting..they are the rightons and fog knitters... who teach their students to be the rightons of the future....many see through them and grow into normal beings..other grow to live in an unrealistic la la land
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Post by mouse on Sept 16, 2016 12:23:37 GMT -5
"""who would appreciate a paraent jumping"""" mmmmmm I wonder if they would also object to financial help from those same parents???or turn down financial help from parents or tax payers"" ""Most of us are adults or close to it """and why should any one respect their choices and if adults and wanting to be treated as adults then isn't it incumbent on student to behave as adults and face up to the realities of life which includes being totally self suporting By the time they are in college, they're moving into their own worlds. At some point, you have to let go of meddling in their awakenings and be satisfied to keep a watchful eye from a distance (in case a serious situation presents itself). my point stands...you want to be an adult and treated like an adult..then take on all the responsibilities of an adult and behave like an adult |
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Post by annaj26 on Sept 16, 2016 12:31:07 GMT -5
Then you think if you help pay for your child's higher education you want to control the curriculum?
That's a strange point of view to me. Indicates control issues.
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Post by men an tol on Sept 16, 2016 12:52:28 GMT -5
While there is some control involved, it is control coming from the root of paying the bill. That is, if the parent were not paying the bill the youth would not be there or at best would be creating a large debt. The one paying the bill does so with some expectation of what is being sold (that is the education). If that education is as has been described here and the one paying the bills are not happy with it, then they have every right to quit paying for something that is a course without value.
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Post by josephdphillips on Sept 16, 2016 12:53:52 GMT -5
Wanting to know what happens to one's money after it's spent is not unreasonable.
Nothing stops one's offspring from paying for his/her own college education if s/he doesn't want parents involved.
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Post by beth on Sept 16, 2016 15:34:49 GMT -5
By the time they are in college, they're moving into their own worlds. At some point, you have to let go of meddling in their awakenings and be satisfied to keep a watchful eye from a distance (in case a serious situation presents itself). my point stands...you want to be an adult and treated like an adult..then take on all the responsibilities of an adult and behave like an adult My 2 older children went away to college. My youngest, always a bit of a home loving child, chose to attend the nearby University as it has an outstanding program in her major. Looking at all 3 of them, I can't imagine picking or meddling in their course loads. Nor can I imagine my parents doing that with me or my brother and sister. it sounds to me like breech of respect. Of course, other people may have other experiences to draw on that influence their opinion. I can only speak for my own. |
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Post by mouse on Sept 17, 2016 2:11:56 GMT -5
While there is some control involved, it is control coming from the root of paying the bill. That is, if the parent were not paying the bill the youth would not be there or at best would be creating a large debt. The one paying the bill does so with some expectation of what is being sold (that is the education). If that education is as has been described here and the one paying the bills are not happy with it, then they have every right to quit paying for something that is a course without value. and you get it Men """"paying the bill does so with some expectation of what is being sold (that is the education"""" paying the bill you are paying for an expectated level teaching to a certain standard...NOT social manipulation.. |
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Post by mouse on Sept 17, 2016 2:24:32 GMT -5
Then you think if you help pay for your child's higher education you want to control the curriculum? That's a strange point of view to me. Indicates control issues. not at all strange nor is it controlling...paying for ones children is an investment as much as its an investment of buying shares ...you are investing in their future and you want on their behalf value for money if your child/almost adult decides away from lectures to become and activist in this or that...that is a separate matter[and between parent and student]...but what they go to Uni or collegeto be taught.. is what the curricular states...and I bet a penny to a pound it doesn't mentions such eeegit subjects as putting ones hand up is invading some one elses space etc etc stark raving loonys |
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Post by mouse on Sept 17, 2016 2:43:32 GMT -5
my point stands...you want to be an adult and treated like an adult..then take on all the responsibilities of an adult and behave like an adult My 2 older children went away to college. My youngest, always a bit of a home loving child, chose to attend the nearby University as it has an outstanding program in her major. Looking at all 3 of them, I can't imagine picking or meddling in their course loads. Nor can I imagine my parents doing that with me or my brother and sister. it sounds to me like breech of respect. Of course, other people may have other experiences to draw on that influence their opinion. I can only speak for my own. """" it sounds to me like breech of respect."""" I ould say the breach of lack of respect in the case we are discussing..the lack of respect comes in from the tutorial staff who are going beyond their remit in trying to foster their own socio/political views/agenda on to students.. and that ladies and gentlemen will NOT be on the curricular in the small amount of information we have on this particular college it sounds rather iffy and I would NOT be very happy to have my money abused in such a way were I paying the feees |
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Post by fretslider on Sept 17, 2016 4:43:31 GMT -5
I gave this subject ~5 seconds thought and the answer is so obvious.
No matter whom you might be addressing, just say Oi You
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and if adults and wanting to be treated as adults then isn't it incumbent on student to behave as adults and face up to the realities of life which includes being totally self suporting
