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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2016 14:20:33 GMT -5
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Post by Sysop3 on Sept 14, 2016 18:35:05 GMT -5
They (media) might be making too much out of it. He might just be trying to get them to broaden their vocabulary. " "Male and female" might be defined as "propagators of their species". I don't see how anybody could argue with that.
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Post by mouse on Sept 15, 2016 5:09:59 GMT -5
I fail to see how those words can be offensive ...they are all descriptive
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Post by fretslider on Sept 15, 2016 6:57:01 GMT -5
The loony left long ago infiltrated education and took it over. This is one of the results.
A really timid and fragile generation that is afraid to say male and female. I wonder how the biology classes are handling this utter stupidity?
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Post by mouse on Sept 15, 2016 7:50:03 GMT -5
The loony left long ago infiltrated education and took it over. This is one of the results. A really timid and fragile generation that is afraid to say male and female. I wonder how the biology classes are handling this utter stupidity? sadly its very true...no one appears to speak what I would describe as normally any more in case feelings or sensebilities are offended.. ,,assaulted by the mearest whiff that there may be alternate views and offended by almost every thing possible.... luckily though they are not the only ones on the planet but sadly they do appear to have a control over many as you say Fret..such delicate little flowers...such fragile mindsets and the damage they do..every ones a winner..every girl child is a princess..and every girl is entitled to her special day..eeewwwwghhhhhhh little boy came home from first day at school in floods of tears..seems the teacher hadn't said/noticed he was special or wonderful because he could fasten his velcro fasted shoes
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Post by mouse on Sept 15, 2016 7:57:08 GMT -5
They (media) might be making too much out of it. He might just be trying to get them to broaden their vocabulary. " "Male and female" might be defined as "propagators of their species". I don't see how anybody could argue with that. college is a bit late to broaden ones vocab...nah it stinks of idiocy...but heres the nub..white privilege T"""""he professor emphasized that repeated use of such vocabulary could warrant punishment such as “removal from the class without attendance or participation points, failure of the assignment, and—in extreme cases—failure for the semester.” Breikss is not alone in her decision to forbid students from referring to immigrants as “illegals.” The professor of an Introduction to Comparative Ethnic Studies course at Washington State threatens students with grade reductions of they use the terms “illegal alien” or “illegal.” Professor Rebecca Fowler, citing the Associated Press stylebook, wrote in her Fall 2015 syllabus that students should forego these monikers in favor of labeling migrants “undocumented.” Students who employ the barred terms in writing assignments will suffer a one-point deduction for each use. The course’s goal is to instill in its subjects an understanding of “white privilege.” A third professor at Washington State is directing incoming white pupils to “defer” to their non-white counterparts in his Introduction to Multicultural Literature course this fall
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Post by men an tol on Sept 15, 2016 9:38:44 GMT -5
This is merely a demonstration of diminishing reality in favor of myth. The way to handle this is to discharge such ignorant instructors from the teaching institution. Of course that will not happen as such ignorant individuals are now directing the teaching goals such institutions. Double-speak is on us and it won’t be long before children are taught to ‘turn-in’ their parents for using the wrong words.
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Post by beth on Sept 15, 2016 10:53:11 GMT -5
I fail to see how those words can be offensive ...they are all descriptive At a glance, I'd say you guys are making way too much of this. Isn't it just for the one class? If so, that's no big deal .. just a little role play exercise. I had a psychology professor who did similar things for past time. Of course, that was back before all the PC BS. Just sounds like something new to be outraged about. let it go and it will (go away).
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Post by men an tol on Sept 15, 2016 11:45:06 GMT -5
You could be right Beth; it may all just go away. However, I have this feeling that it is only getting worse.
I know that if I were a parent and had a child in such a class, the next day I would be in the office of Dean and explaining that such, non-education teaching, I would pull my child and sue the school. There have been other situations and what is most disturbing is that not only does the other teachers not get upset with such idiotic crap, but that they often support such non-teaching activities.
Now I realize that in the world of academe my view is very much a minority view (except at a very few schools) but this is (in my opinion) teaching young people how to be a failure in life. This is an opportunity to standup for what is right.
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Post by annaj26 on Sept 15, 2016 13:11:01 GMT -5
You could be right Beth; it may all just go away. However, I have this feeling that it is only getting worse. I know that if I were a parent and had a child in such a class, the next day I would be in the office of Dean and explaining that such, non-education teaching, I would pull my child and sue the school. There have been other situations and what is most disturbing is that not only does the other teachers not get upset with such idiotic crap, but that they often support such non-teaching activities. Now I realize that in the world of academe my view is very much a minority view (except at a very few schools) but this is (in my opinion) teaching young people how to be a failure in life. This is an opportunity to standup for what is right. I doubt if you'd be able to find many college age people who would appreciate a paraent jumping in between them and their course work. Most of us are adults or close to it. The course work was probably given to them in advance and it was their choice. Your next move is to respect their choices.
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Post by fretslider on Sept 15, 2016 15:32:19 GMT -5
I expect safe spaces and trigger words were a novelty to begin with, but they are to be found in most Universities now. A university student was threatened with being thrown out of a meeting after being accused of violating “safe space” rules - by raising her hand.
Imogen Wilson, the vice-president for academic affairs at Edinburgh University Students’ Association (EUSA), spoke out against safe space rules becoming “a tool for the hard left to use when they disagree with people”, following the incident last week.
Ms Wilson, 22, was subject to a “safe space complaint” over her supposedly “inappropriate hand gestures” during a student council meeting.
According to the association’s rules, student council meetings should be held in a “safe space environment”, defined as “a space which is welcoming and safe and includes the prohibition of discriminatory language and actions”.
This includes “refraining from hand gestures which denote disagreement”, or “in any other way indicating disagreement with a point or points being made”.
“Disagreements should only be evident through the normal course of debate,” it says.
Ms Wilson said she raised her arms in disagreement after being accused by another speaker of failing to respond to an open letter, despite in fact having made efforts to contact the letter’s authors.
A complaint was made against Ms Wilson, who was then subjected to a vote on whether she should be removed from the room.
Although the vote went in her favour, with 18 people voting to remove her and 33 voting for her to be allowed to remain, she was later threatened with another complaint after shaking her head while someone was speaking.www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/03/student-accused-of-violating-university-safe-space-by-raising-he/They are destined to be barristers and judges – but undergraduates studying law at Oxford are being told before lectures on cases involving violence or death that they can leave if they fear the content will be too ‘distressing’.
Lecturers have been asked by the director of undergraduate studies for law to ‘bear in mind’ using trigger warnings when they give lectures containing ‘potentially distressing’ content.
One law student explained: ‘Before the lectures on sexual offences – which included issues such as rape and sexual assault – we were warned that the content could be distressing, and were then given the opportunity to leave if we needed to.’www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3579086/Oxford-law-students-fragile-hear-violent-crime-Undergraduates-given-trigger-warnings-traumatic-material.html#ixzz4KMIHzEXO I'm sure no woman would want a lawyer prosecuting a rape case who had to leave the room when the subject was being taught
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Post by men an tol on Sept 15, 2016 16:24:32 GMT -5
You could be right Beth; it may all just go away. However, I have this feeling that it is only getting worse. I know that if I were a parent and had a child in such a class, the next day I would be in the office of Dean and explaining that such, non-education teaching, I would pull my child and sue the school. There have been other situations and what is most disturbing is that not only does the other teachers not get upset with such idiotic crap, but that they often support such non-teaching activities. Now I realize that in the world of academe my view is very much a minority view (except at a very few schools) but this is (in my opinion) teaching young people how to be a failure in life. This is an opportunity to standup for what is right. I doubt if you'd be able to find many college age people who would appreciate a paraent jumping in between them and their course work. Most of us are adults or close to it. The course work was probably given to them in advance and it was their choice. Your next move is to respect their choices. I guess I should have gone a little farther in my comment. If the student is paying for the schooling, I as the parent have little or no right to interfere, although I would probably try to influence my child. However, if I am paying the bill then I have every right to get involved and would in the situation described.
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Post by mouse on Sept 16, 2016 4:13:35 GMT -5
You could be right Beth; it may all just go away. However, I have this feeling that it is only getting worse. I know that if I were a parent and had a child in such a class, the next day I would be in the office of Dean and explaining that such, non-education teaching, I would pull my child and sue the school. There have been other situations and what is most disturbing is that not only does the other teachers not get upset with such idiotic crap, but that they often support such non-teaching activities. Now I realize that in the world of academe my view is very much a minority view (except at a very few schools) but this is (in my opinion) teaching young people how to be a failure in life. This is an opportunity to standup for what is right. I doubt if you'd be able to find many college age people who would appreciate a paraent jumping in between them and their course work. Most of us are adults or close to it. The course work was probably given to them in advance and it was their choice. Your next move is to respect their choices. """who would appreciate a paraent jumping"""" mmmmmm I wonder if they would also object to financial help from those same parents???or turn down financial help from parents or tax payers"" ""Most of us are adults or close to it """and why should any one respect their choices and if adults and wanting to be treated as adults then isn't it incumbent on student to behave as adults and face up to the realities of life which includes being totally self suporting
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Post by mouse on Sept 16, 2016 4:20:30 GMT -5
I fail to see how those words can be offensive ...they are all descriptive At a glance, I'd say you guys are making way too much of this. Isn't it just for the one class? If so, that's no big deal .. just a little role play exercise. I had a psychology professor who did similar things for past time. Of course, that was back before all the PC BS. Just sounds like something new to be outraged about. let it go and it will (go away). it wont go away..its getting more invasive sadly and it gives student the wrong view of life and the world..a world which doesn't exist except in the heads of the right ons I agree with Frets coments and if raising ones hand can be seen as objectionable and invading a safe space..what on earth as these precious ones going to do in the real world..when some one gets up close and very very personal absolute madness....
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Post by beth on Sept 16, 2016 9:16:40 GMT -5
At a glance, I'd say you guys are making way too much of this. Isn't it just for the one class? If so, that's no big deal .. just a little role play exercise. I had a psychology professor who did similar things for past time. Of course, that was back before all the PC BS. Just sounds like something new to be outraged about. let it go and it will (go away). it wont go away..its getting more invasive sadly and it gives student the wrong view of life and the world..a world which doesn't exist except in the heads of the right ons I agree with Frets coments and if raising ones hand can be seen as objectionable and invading a safe space..what on earth as these precious ones going to do in the real world..when some one gets up close and very very personal absolute madness.... Fret and I agree often but not always. I, most likely, know more about U.S. college/University (interchangeable here) systems than you do. The occasional course using experimental methods is no cause for wringing-of-hands. It's been the same for years. Media wants you to be offended.
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