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Post by mouse on Jun 2, 2016 6:18:06 GMT -5
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Post by mouse on Jun 2, 2016 6:31:36 GMT -5
this article really needs to be read...how the scum of Europe the middle east and the rest of the world are given citizenship housing and cash galore in preference to hard working families who the home office is trying to get ejected
if ever there was a clear picture of the insanity happening in the UK..this one article spells it out...and when a country prefers dross and low life to hard working law abiding citizens...and when criminals from across the world are given leave to stay and decent people ejected..then we are really at the bottom of the sewer
a case not too far away from where I live...a couple and their children set to be kicked out of the UK..DUE NOT TO ANYTHING THEY HAD DONE BUT THE PAPERS WORK WASNT QUITE IN ORDER...this couple and their children had settled here the parents worked in the fish n chip shop they bought on morgage..the children not in any trouble with the police and doing well at school
the local people set about getting publicity and hired a lawyers etc etc a petition was signed...at the very last moment literally they were allowed to stay after being put through the wringer by the powers that be
how much easier it would have been if this couple and their children had been wastes of space..drug taking murderers...then there would have been no question of them having to leave ..they could have lied their way across the manuel which is ooooman rights.....what an absolute farce this country has become along with its criminals charter
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Post by Dex on Jun 2, 2016 10:53:26 GMT -5
I have to wonder if there's another side to this story. The Daily Mail must have a mission to get some in England all riled up on one issue or another every morning. This one does seem pretty unfair but I'd like to hear the other side of the stories. Maybe the Canadians and Australians will be better off in their home countries. |
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Post by beth on Jun 2, 2016 17:52:18 GMT -5
I have to wonder if there's another side to this story. The Daily Mail must have a mission to get some in England all riled up on one issue or another every morning. This one does seem pretty unfair but I'd like to hear the other side of the stories. Maybe the Canadians and Australians will be better off in their home countries. After watching the typical TDM approach for a long time now, I'd guess they take some facts and present them in such a way as to create a picture of outrageous circumstances ... the more extreme the better. They can be counted on for a generous serving of angst and outrage every day. In the first example .. given the people in Scotland knew the rules (I have to believe they had that information from the get-go). They have made the choice not to hire the extra worker. If staying in Scotland was so important to them, why not just close the business and get jobs. Regrettable but sometimes things are not profitable enough to succeed. Not really an unusual situation. They are not victims, just ordinary people who didn't succeed at running a business. Okay ... down off my soapbox.  I complain about TDM once in awhile but usually just accept it as part of the bad-to-worse media mix and move along. |
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Post by mouse on Jun 3, 2016 7:30:41 GMT -5
I have to wonder if there's another side to this story. The Daily Mail must have a mission to get some in England all riled up on one issue or another every morning. This one does seem pretty unfair but I'd like to hear the other side of the stories. Maybe the Canadians and Australians will be better off in their home countries. trust me this isn't the daily mail getting and manipulating...this is happening ALL the time constantly..murders/thieves/rapists/conmerchant and crooks are allowed to stay and live for free while decent hardworkers like the Chinese family I gave as an example of a case I know about personally are kicked out on the flimsiest of excuses one of many examples I could relate and the same with those who are allowed to stay on cock and bull stories...one many got leave to remain because he had a cat..[absolutely true] another knocked down killed a child drove away from the scene..had no tax or insurance and was driving a car not fit to be on the road...but he was allowed to stay....so its a given if your a crim you can stay..if your hard working its on your bike than gawd for the mail..the express and the local papers...they at least do their job and their job is to print news...NOT BUTTER THE PILL IN CORRECT SPEAK |
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Post by Dex on Jun 3, 2016 7:57:27 GMT -5
Different points of view. Thanks. |
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Post by mouse on Jun 3, 2016 8:09:25 GMT -5
indeed Dex...rwemember we are a very small country in terms of acerage...and what happens in one place can impact on elsewhere...your country is vast..ours is not and we have a right to know what is going on with the social fabric as well as the financial..educational political etc etc ...we are too small to live in a fools paradise...or be so London centric that we thing immigration is good simply because we can afford to employ phillipinos or Estonians etc to look after our children and wash the pots for cut price wages....
we see and many live a very different side to the impact of immigration/migration/illegals/and appalling court judgments....than facts and figures can explain
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Post by Sysop3 on Jun 3, 2016 10:05:58 GMT -5
I have to wonder if there's another side to this story. The Daily Mail must have a mission to get some in England all riled up on one issue or another every morning. This one does seem pretty unfair but I'd like to hear the other side of the stories. Maybe the Canadians and Australians will be better off in their home countries. trust me this isn't the daily mail getting and manipulating...this is happening ALL the time constantly..murders/thieves/rapists/conmerchant and crooks are allowed to stay and live for free while decent hardworkers like the Chinese family I gave as an example of a case I know about personally are kicked out on the flimsiest of excuses one of many examples I could relate and the same with those who are allowed to stay on cock and bull stories...one many got leave to remain because he had a cat..[absolutely true] another knocked down killed a child drove away from the scene..had no tax or insurance and was driving a car not fit to be on the road...but he was allowed to stay....so its a given if your a crim you can stay..if your hard working its on your bike than gawd for the mail..the express and the local papers...they at least do their job and their job is to print news...NOT BUTTER THE PILL IN CORRECT SPEAK The Daily Mail is a Tabloid all-the-time. You must take Tabloids more seriously than we do. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 12:40:34 GMT -5
mouse is correct and the same crap happens here to decent immigrants vs cow dung no one wants.
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Post by beth on Jun 3, 2016 15:33:01 GMT -5
mouse is correct and the same crap happens here to decent immigrants vs cow dung no one wants. I have nothing against decent immigrants but The Daily Mall is a tabloid of the same caliber as The National Enquirer, (low, lurid and lame content) and seems to be especially designed to fan outrage. That's not to say a lot of people don't like it (and like to be outraged), but there's really no excuse for what it does. It's saving grace is some nice pictorial layouts. Just a matter of taste I guess, but the tabloidization of mainstream journalism is really sad. That's okay ... I'm happy to agree to disagree. |
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Post by mouse on Jun 4, 2016 3:16:15 GMT -5
I neither like nor dislike the mail or express compared to any other paper..what I require is news...news of all types..one can get past the spin and the hype as long as a paper gives the basics..especially of court cases which can be checked up on
and it is the right of newspapers to tell the other side of the story...any story..otherwise governing bodies get it all their own way with their spin on things
politions etc have been conning us for years with words like enrichment..we need more not less people blah blah..that is their agenda where they tell it as KUMBYAH and little house on the prarie...and we need the other side to be told..the other side that people have to live with and endure..its about getting a balance and not falling for either spin..its about a realistic look without an agenda..to see things as they are in real life and that is all the tabloids do...they show the opposite of government and do show the more social aspect and its affects
I don't want to be outraged I simply wish to know whats going on...the real costs and the real gains..the upsides and the down sides...and how the courts and so called justice system really works...the idiocy of some decisions etc etc and the agendas..
and the threats and curtailment of news by government too...this and the manipulation of the courts in Europe would not have been given so much publicity without the tabloid press..so well done the tabloids....long may they print...we need the freedom of the press more than ever....if we are to remain with any semblance of freedom of informations and not live in a PC world of say the Guardian
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I complain about TDM once in awhile but usually just accept it as part of the bad-to-worse media mix and move along. 
