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Post by ladylinda on Apr 6, 2014 16:21:34 GMT -5
Actually Islam would allow them to be exempted from fasting in those circumstances.
But if they want to take exams and fast then it's their look out.
There should be a level playing field for all people taking exams.
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Apr 6, 2014 23:39:36 GMT -5
Actually, I wonder what the real population is? All those illegals that slipped into the black economy doubtless didn't return a census. And I know it's out by at least one because I didn't return mine. Was already to point out that I went to sea before the form was sent out and got home well after it was due in but no-one's every written or visited to ask why I didn't return my census. Which it turns out I never received anyway. I gather there was quite a lot of people whose forms never made it to their letterbox, too (so presumably they're not counted - well, the ones that didn't pipe up and say they hadn't had a form or who didn't just go and do it online, that is). Made the papers, if I recall almost correctly. Still, now that Royal Mail is privatised I'm sure there will be 100% delivery rate in 2021. And I won't return that one, either. Exactly. As we have discussed before, the best indication of population growth is, of all things, sewage flow rates . Think about it - you can keep your head down as much as possible regarding getting paid 'cash in hand', avoiding registering for healthcare etc etc, but unless you're one of that wonderful group notorious for moving onto private land illegally, stopping for a while & then moving on, leaving behind all sorts of rubbish including piles of human bodily waste, then you're going to be using the loo somewhere... ...and all piped sewage has to be treated these days, and flow rates are monitored, so it's easy to compare throughput against known population for the area served by the treatment plant. Higher rate than expected means that there's more folk there than there should be, according to the records... Sounds like a load of crap to me.
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Post by markindurham on Apr 7, 2014 0:10:13 GMT -5
Exactly. As we have discussed before, the best indication of population growth is, of all things, sewage flow rates . Think about it - you can keep your head down as much as possible regarding getting paid 'cash in hand', avoiding registering for healthcare etc etc, but unless you're one of that wonderful group notorious for moving onto private land illegally, stopping for a while & then moving on, leaving behind all sorts of rubbish including piles of human bodily waste, then you're going to be using the loo somewhere... ...and all piped sewage has to be treated these days, and flow rates are monitored, so it's easy to compare throughput against known population for the area served by the treatment plant. Higher rate than expected means that there's more folk there than there should be, according to the records... Sounds like a load of crap to me. Where there's muck, there's brass, as the saying goes - in this case the 'brass' is information, which in a war is priceless smiley 1 Are we at war? Yes, I believe that we are, in a way.
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Post by mouse on Apr 7, 2014 3:05:01 GMT -5
I would rather believe what the sewage treatment figures are than our lying devious so called leader yes we are at war...but not verbally or physically............................YET....our leaders are terrified of what is to come and try to pretend nothing is happening...we saw that all too clearly in the riots the other year...and even then they couldn't tell the truth lest it offend....
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Post by ladylinda on Apr 7, 2014 16:46:33 GMT -5
We are NOT 'at war' with Islam; we're not even 'at war' with Muslim terrorists.
We're simply dealing with a bunch of criminal nutjobs who need to be smacked until they stop.
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Apr 7, 2014 16:54:56 GMT -5
We are NOT 'at war' with Islam; we're not even 'at war' with Muslim terrorists. We're simply dealing with a bunch of criminal nutjobs who need to be smacked until they stop. No, no, no. Smacking them simply does not work What they need is to be given " a good spanking."
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Post by ladylinda on Apr 7, 2014 18:21:59 GMT -5
Hm, you're getting into bedroom territory now, Tempus! (Our bedroom, anyway! I did promise to love, honour and obey my husband - us Romani girls are very traditional like that!)
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Apr 7, 2014 22:10:41 GMT -5
Hm, you're getting into bedroom territory now, Tempus! Steady!! Behave!!!
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Post by mouse on Apr 9, 2014 4:18:01 GMT -5
We are NOT 'at war' with Islam; we're not even 'at war' with Muslim terrorists. We're simply dealing with a bunch of criminal nutjobs who need to be smacked until they stop. if only we WERE dealing with a bunch of criminal nut jobs..life would be much simpler but as history of the last 1500 yrs will attest we are not dealing with a few crims...but concerted action across the planet but I do agree our leaders are not at war but are playing the dhimmini to frightening levels ...perhaps they should listen more to the rantings of ISALM and learn.....there is only one thing that islam and its followers understand..the waiting game which they use ...and the only thing it responds to is strength
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Apr 9, 2014 5:04:10 GMT -5
We are NOT 'at war' with Islam; we're not even 'at war' with Muslim terrorists. We're simply dealing with a bunch of criminal nutjobs who need to be smacked until they stop. if only we WERE dealing with a bunch of criminal nut jobs..life would be much simpler but as history of the last 1500 yrs will attest we are not dealing with a few crims...but concerted action across the planet but I do agree our leaders are not at war but are playing the dhimmini to frightening levels ...perhaps they should listen more to the rantings of ISALM and learn.....there is only one thing that islam and its followers understand..the waiting game which they use ...and the only thing it responds to is strength I would contend that, certainly from the opposition's point of view, we are at war in much the same was as we were at war with Irish catholics until recently.
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Post by markindurham on Apr 9, 2014 5:18:29 GMT -5
if only we WERE dealing with a bunch of criminal nut jobs..life would be much simpler but as history of the last 1500 yrs will attest we are not dealing with a few crims...but concerted action across the planet but I do agree our leaders are not at war but are playing the dhimmini to frightening levels ...perhaps they should listen more to the rantings of ISALM and learn.....there is only one thing that islam and its followers understand..the waiting game which they use ...and the only thing it responds to is strength I would contend that, certainly from the opposition's point of view, we are at war in much the same was as we were at war with Irish catholics until recently. The difference is that the IRA only wanted the 6 counties to become part of Eire, and religion wasn't really an issue. The islamists, otoh, regardless of the bleatings of the apologists, wish to follow their book of death & misogyny to the letter, which includes the subjugation of the world.
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Post by ladylinda on Apr 9, 2014 12:41:01 GMT -5
We are NOT 'at war' with Islam; we're not even 'at war' with Muslim terrorists. We're simply dealing with a bunch of criminal nutjobs who need to be smacked until they stop. if only we WERE dealing with a bunch of criminal nut jobs..life would be much simpler but as history of the last 1500 yrs will attest we are not dealing with a few crims...but concerted action across the planet but I do agree our leaders are not at war but are playing the dhimmini to frightening levels ...perhaps they should listen more to the rantings of ISALM and learn.....there is only one thing that islam and its followers understand..the waiting game which they use ...and the only thing it responds to is strength Well, I wouldn't dream of trying to deny you your right to be wrong, Mouse. But you ARE wrong - factually, morally and in every other way on this issue. The paranoids are out to get us and fomenting paranoia is about as irresponsible as chucking cans of petrol on a fire. As for the history of the last 1500 years the murder total of Muslims doesn't even BEGIN to compare with that by Christians. To say nothing of atheist regimes like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. In fact overall atheist regimes in power have the WORST human rights record and the HIGHEST number of murders against their names. And you still suffer from the same delusion that Islam is a monolithic ideology where all or even most of its followers agree. It's NO more monolithic than Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism. Like them it's split into sects and denominations all in turn with sub-groups. And they disagree on almost everything. But if you prefer to believe lies rather than truth I can't stop you anymore than I can with people who believe the earth is flat. But basically the FACTS prove you wrong on every level.
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Apr 10, 2014 1:56:53 GMT -5
I would contend that, certainly from the opposition's point of view, we are at war in much the same was as we were at war with Irish catholics until recently. The difference is that the IRA only wanted the 6 counties to become part of Eire, and religion wasn't really an issue. The islamists, otoh, regardless of the bleatings of the apologists, wish to follow their book of death & misogyny to the letter, which includes the subjugation of the world. Indeed but I was referring in the context of a bunch of civies with a beef who think they're a bona fide military formation (with some dodgy third world barmpot giving them some training and weapons) who decide they are at war which we then have to deploy a real military formation to try and contain, when the "enemy" don't wear uniform, don't move into overt defensive positions, don't engage in open combat and hide amongst the nominally innocent non-combatant populace.
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Post by mouse on Apr 10, 2014 2:49:30 GMT -5
"""""Well, I wouldn't dream of trying to deny you your right to be wrong, Mouse.""""" awfully glad to hear that..you being a liberalista n,all
""""But you ARE wrong - factually, morally and in every other way on this issue"""" morals don't come into any thing I jotted down..only history..custom and practice..all very well documented
""""The paranoids are out to get us and fomenting paranoia is about as irresponsible as chucking cans of petrol on a fire"""" paranoia doesn't come unto it...factual custom and practice and history do.. along with recent experiences.
""""As for the history of the last 1500 years the murder total of Muslims doesn't even BEGIN to compare with that by Christians. To say nothing of atheist regimes like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot."""" we are discussing the cult of islam not Christianity....nor are we discussing atheist regimes such as polpots or comunist Russia..aside from which I rememeber you saying that communism could be declared a religion[mindset] and when it comes to numbers I recon its a very close deal if we include the numbers of slaves and the rape of India etc etc ..[figures documented by muslim chroniclers]
""""In fact overall atheist regimes in power have the WORST human rights record and the HIGHEST number of murders against their names"""". yet again muddying the waters
"""""And you still suffer from the same delusion that Islam is a monolithic ideology where all or even most of its followers agree."""" no...that is your interpretation.....however from the assasins to the shia they all have the same root...all cults have offshoots of varying intensity
""""""But if you prefer to believe lies rather than truth I can't stop you anymore than I can with people who believe the earth is flat. But basically the FACTS prove you wrong on every level"""""" well you are never going to aknowledge the sheer misery that this cult has brought to the world where ever it sets out its stall..but basically if islam was so beneficial we would be clamouring to get into Islamic type countries and NOT the other way around..instead it is a mysoginistic..cruel..cult..ignorant and poverty striken on every level...started from murder and continuing in murder to this very day....
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Post by mouse on Apr 10, 2014 2:55:00 GMT -5
The difference is that the IRA only wanted the 6 counties to become part of Eire, and religion wasn't really an issue. The islamists, otoh, regardless of the bleatings of the apologists, wish to follow their book of death & misogyny to the letter, which includes the subjugation of the world. Indeed but I was referring in the context of a bunch of civies with a beef who think they're a bona fide military formation (with some dodgy third world barmpot giving them some training and weapons) who decide they are at war which we then have to deploy a real military formation to try and contain, when the "enemy" don't wear uniform, move into overt defensive positions, engage in open combat and hide amongst the nominally innocent non-combatant populace. like peas in a pod on every count.....
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