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Post by beth on Mar 3, 2012 1:00:50 GMT -5
Not sure about this but after reading a couple of articles, I think it sounds as if the Grandfather had the gun hidden in a barn and the boy, simply, found it. Not sure the Grandfather is guilty of carelessness. I have a feeling we won't find out the details until trial ... if there IS a trial.
Something else that seems glaringly obvious to me is ... without the gun, the boy probably wouldn't have hit out at all. Take away the gun and its absence changes everything.
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Post by akamai on Mar 3, 2012 2:24:26 GMT -5
Not sure about this but after reading a couple of articles, I think it sounds as if the Grandfather had the gun hidden in a barn and the boy, simply, found it. Not sure the Grandfather is guilty of carelessness. I have a feeling we won't find out the details until trial ... if there IS a trial. Something else that seems glaringly obvious to me is ... without the gun, the boy probably wouldn't have hit out at all. Take away the gun and its absence changes everything. Hi Beth, That is not only carelessness, but irresponsible. A gun that isn't in use should be locked up or disabled so it cannot get into the hands of anyone who isn't responsible enough to handle one. By law, a 17 year old should never own a gun, should never be in possession of a gun, and should not be allowed to fire one without proper supervision. What should also be law, is a mandatory class on gun safety for all gun owners. To hide a fully operational gun is not only irresponsible. It is also very stupid. AKM
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Post by fretslider on Mar 3, 2012 4:15:26 GMT -5
"The U.S. will, IMO, never give up the right to bear arms......so how do you regulate people that are not going to follow the laws to keep guns out of criminals or mentally unstable people." Unless things change you will just have to learn to live with it. In this case I'm glad its not my problem. Hi Fretslider, Well, I hope they never ban guns in the USA. A farmer without a gun is like a mechanic without a wrench. I like guns for recreation such as hunting and target shooting, and I think we can curb the carelessness and irresponsibility of gun ownership if we have better controlling laws. AKM Hi Akamai We don't have this fabled right to bear arms and yet our farmers have guns, I believe we also have shooting teams etc. Its really a case of being sensible about it. I agree with Sadie, the right will never be given up, so you'll have to live with all these shootings. Every gun in every house is a potential loose cannon - no pun intended.
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Post by mouse on Mar 3, 2012 5:38:30 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, Well, I hope they never ban guns in the USA. A farmer without a gun is like a mechanic without a wrench. I like guns for recreation such as hunting and target shooting, and I think we can curb the carelessness and irresponsibility of gun ownership if we have better controlling laws. AKM Hi Akamai We don't have this fabled right to bear arms and yet our farmers have guns, I believe we also have shooting teams etc. Its really a case of being sensible about it. I agree with Sadie, the right will never be given up, so you'll have to live with all these shootings. Every gun in every house is a potential loose cannon - no pun intended. i can hear the guns every sunday morning when the gun club meet not too far away and quite often one can hear them in the woods or back fields morning or evening when theres a shoot on for clearing foxes/squirrels/magpies/rooks/rabbits etc lots of guns around here..and apart from one farmer shooting himself in the 1960,s cannot recall ANYONE being injured orshooting any human being as fretty says its about sensible ownership...both my boys learnt to shoot when younger and both owned airrifles as well...but both were taught how to handle/carry and clean guns safely gun ownership came in very useful when a few weeks ago a horse had to be shot to put it out of its misery after a very nasty accident...had we had to await the vet/marksman to destroy the animal it would have been in agony for longer than the 6 mins it did suffer
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Post by akamai on Mar 3, 2012 9:41:40 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, Well, I hope they never ban guns in the USA. A farmer without a gun is like a mechanic without a wrench. I like guns for recreation such as hunting and target shooting, and I think we can curb the carelessness and irresponsibility of gun ownership if we have better controlling laws. AKM Hi Akamai We don't have this fabled right to bear arms and yet our farmers have guns, I believe we also have shooting teams etc. Its really a case of being sensible about it. I agree with Sadie, the right will never be given up, so you'll have to live with all these shootings. Every gun in every house is a potential loose cannon - no pun intended. Hi Fretslider, It is totally ridiculous to have so many gun related murders. While I do favor a priviledge to own a gun, I think of it as a priviledge rather than a right. If it is a right, that "right" can be taken away from you if you are convicted of a felony. Being that there are restrictions on gun ownerships, the "right to bear" is really one subject to changes. When our forefathers made the Bill of Rights, they gave us the right to bear arms as muskets, and in those days, a gun was necessary for survival. With the "right to bear arms", they define "arms" to the point where you cannot own a bazooka or a nuclear weapon, which is "arms" in my book. If they can restrict you as to the larger weapons, they could say that "arms" are restricted to muzzle loaded muskets. Today, a farmer without a gun is about as rare as a farmer without a hoe. AKM
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Post by akamai on Mar 3, 2012 9:52:51 GMT -5
Hi Akamai We don't have this fabled right to bear arms and yet our farmers have guns, I believe we also have shooting teams etc. Its really a case of being sensible about it. I agree with Sadie, the right will never be given up, so you'll have to live with all these shootings. Every gun in every house is a potential loose cannon - no pun intended. i can hear the guns every sunday morning when the gun club meet not too far away and quite often one can hear them in the woods or back fields morning or evening when theres a shoot on for clearing foxes/squirrels/magpies/rooks/rabbits etc lots of guns around here..and apart from one farmer shooting himself in the 1960,s cannot recall ANYONE being injured orshooting any human being as fretty says its about sensible ownership...both my boys learnt to shoot when younger and both owned airrifles as well...but both were taught how to handle/carry and clean guns safely gun ownership came in very useful when a few weeks ago a horse had to be shot to put it out of its misery after a very nasty accident...had we had to await the vet/marksman to destroy the animal it would have been in agony for longer than the 6 mins it did suffer Here where I live, we have a lot of hunters who hunt for birds, wild pigs, goats, and deer. Personally, I don't like to hunt as a sport. I used to fire my pistols in competition, but not anymore. Now, I do some target shooting with my assault rifle, which is a lot of fun. It is more accurate than a pistol, and being a .22 rimfire weapon, the ammunition is cheap enough. I used to repack my large bore cartridges, but I stopped that years ago. Now, my pistols are disassembled and locked up, and my assault rifle is kept with a trigger lock on when not in use, and it is locked in a cabinet. Only 10 years ago, I could fire my small bore pistol in my back yard. Now, we have too many neighbors to be able to do that, so I bought a .177 pellet gun to shoot the pests that come in from the field behind my house. AKM
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