toby
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Post by toby on Feb 12, 2012 5:05:33 GMT -5
Toby asks.:- I would like to know exactly is who it was who thought up the Enrichment Lie ?
We are not in the slightest bit ,'Enriched', are we ? mostly they are an unwelcome burden on the rest of us.
When I read the statistics given out by the UK Government that stated 75% of Muslim women are unemployed and 50% of Muslim males are unemployed then I wondered just what is going on ? Then you look at the frightening upward spiral of Benefit costs which annually are more than the cost of Defence and NHS combined, then even a blind man must see that there is something terribly wrong in the UK Other Countries are rising out of recession quite rapidly, the UK has the lead weight of benefit payouts slowing us down, this will be our undoing !
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Post by fretslider on Feb 12, 2012 5:11:41 GMT -5
Toby asks.:- I would like to know exactly is who it was who thought up the Enrichment Lie ? We are not in the slightest bit ,'Enriched', are we ? mostly they are an unwelcome burden on the rest of us. When I read the statistics given out by the UK Government that stated 75% of Muslim women are unemployed and 50% of Muslim males are unemployed then I wondered just what is going on ? Then you look at the frightening upward spiral of Benefit costs which annually are more than the cost of Defence and NHS combined, then even a blind man must see that there is something terribly wrong in the UK Other Countries are rising out of recession quite rapidly, the UK has the lead weight of benefit payouts slowing us down, this will be our undoing ! Given the evidence, the argument that we need immigration for the economy - to fill vacancies - falls flat on its face. My gut feeling is it was engineered purely short-sightedly to gain votes.
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Post by akamai on Feb 12, 2012 11:16:14 GMT -5
i fully understand what your saying...but we are tsalking about a woman who has been enslved and abused from a very young age...with a strong possibility that she doesnt not understand our language....and escaping from her abuse and captivity would put her into a language and situation totally alien where she wouldnt know where to run for help or how to ask for help as it seems she cannot speak.....being deaf is the least of her problems this disgusting pair should be ejected from the country and all their good confiscated sold and given to this now woman Hi Mouse, A person who is deaf has sign language, but I am not sure if sign is universal. I still know some sign because of the deaf GF I once had, but I am not sure if there are foriegn differences except that they sometimes spell certain words using the sign alphabets. If there is a difference, then this girl had no language at all at least in the land that is foriegn to her, IF she did learn sign. This girl must be really a mental mess now because of her ordeal. AKM
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Post by akamai on Feb 12, 2012 11:20:23 GMT -5
Anyone would think there weren't loads of Europeans and Americans who've done the same thing who are about as Muslim as the Chief Rabbi! That is true. AND, it was VERY common in the past. However, if caught in America or Europe, today, the punishment for that kind of abuse is quite severe. I think you will find this type of thing pretty much common in third world countries today. AKM
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Post by ladylinda on Feb 12, 2012 17:33:51 GMT -5
Toby asks.:- I would like to know exactly is who it was who thought up the Enrichment Lie ? We are not in the slightest bit ,'Enriched', are we ? mostly they are an unwelcome burden on the rest of us. When I read the statistics given out by the UK Government that stated 75% of Muslim women are unemployed and 50% of Muslim males are unemployed then I wondered just what is going on ? Then you look at the frightening upward spiral of Benefit costs which annually are more than the cost of Defence and NHS combined, then even a blind man must see that there is something terribly wrong in the UK Other Countries are rising out of recession quite rapidly, the UK has the lead weight of benefit payouts slowing us down, this will be our undoing ! Given the evidence, the argument that we need immigration for the economy - to fill vacancies - falls flat on its face. My gut feeling is it was engineered purely short-sightedly to gain votes. I agree with you 100%, Fret
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Post by mouse on Feb 14, 2012 4:56:25 GMT -5
'I used to sit there for a long, long time crying': Deaf mute woman tells how she was 'kept as sex slave in cellar for a decade since the age of 10'Deaf and mute victim uses interpreter to tell jury of horrifying ordeal A deaf and dumb girl trafficked into the UK to act as a ‘slave’ to an elderly couple for almost a decade yesterday used sign language to tell of her life of horror. Locked in a cellar each night from the age of ten, she was allegedly raped and stabbed, as well as being forced to carry out household chores including cooking, cleaning, sewing and washing. If she was too slow, Ilyas Ashar, 83, and his wife Tallat, 66, would beat her around the head or drag her by her hair, a court heard Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100531/Deaf-girl-10-trafficked-UK-kept-sex-slave-cellar-elderly-couple-10-YEARS.html#ixzz1mLfXrqKA
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Post by mouse on Feb 14, 2012 4:58:11 GMT -5
and guess what,,,these two need an interpretator.....yet they were capable buying a house of buying and selling cars and owning a market stall
just who is taking who for a damned great ride
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Post by akamai on Feb 14, 2012 11:53:13 GMT -5
and guess what,,,these two need an interpretator.....yet they were capable buying a house of buying and selling cars and owning a market stall just who is taking who for a damned great ride Hi Mouse, When I was a child, my mother used to interpret for some elderly Korean men, who lived in an old Korean men's home when they needed legal things done such as court appearances, yet they could speak English. I also did that when I was a younger adult for some Korean immigrants who spoke English. Sometimes, although they speak the language, they may mis-interpret what they are told. In a court, the "language" is sometimes different from what they are used to using, and there are some words that have no real translation from English to their native language. They can survive in a foriegn land, and they may know enough of the language to get by, like getting a job, running a small business, or buying a car, but they may need an interpretor for a court appearance. AKM
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Post by mouse on Feb 15, 2012 2:25:04 GMT -5
they have been here for well over ten years..in fact i understand some of their children were born here well over 20 yrs which is more than long enough to understand exactly what is being said to them have no sympathy for this abominable pair what ever..they knew exactly what they were doing and they also knew what they were doing was wrong wrong wrong their daughter was also involved so there are NO excuses
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Post by akamai on Feb 15, 2012 2:39:46 GMT -5
they have been here for well over ten years..in fact i understand some of their children were born here well over 20 yrs which is more than long enough to understand exactly what is being said to them have no sympathy for this abominable pair what ever..they knew exactly what they were doing and they also knew what they were doing was wrong wrong wrong their daughter was also involved so there are NO excuses Some of the Korean immigrants that my mother interpreted for were here in Hawaii for over 30 years, and the primary language in Hawaii was English for at least 100 years now. Of course they knew they were doing wrong, and of course they are evil, but they more than likely needed a translator. AKM
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Post by mouse on Feb 15, 2012 3:57:04 GMT -5
well they wouldnt get one if i were in charge and i would recind any citizenship and deport them back to where ever they crawled here from...make an example of them i hate slavery with a passion ir ranks with pedophillia in my book and from the sounds of it the two went hand in hand in this poor girls/woman case but then what the[slaves] hand posesses the owner has the right to do with as he thinks fit
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Post by akamai on Feb 15, 2012 11:07:47 GMT -5
well they wouldnt get one if i were in charge and i would recind any citizenship and deport them back to where ever they crawled here from...make an example of them i hate slavery with a passion ir ranks with pedophillia in my book and from the sounds of it the two went hand in hand in this poor girls/woman case but then what the[slaves] hand posesses the owner has the right to do with as he thinks fit Hi Mouse, I too hate slavery, but I think it is very common even today. I KNOW it is common in the Far East, as children from underprivilaged families are sold or married off to wealthier families. I would guess the the Middle East isn't much different. While we don't see much of it in the USA, there is some. It might not be "slavery" like this case, but they bring a person to this country who cannot communicate, and must stay with his/her owner to survive, at least until he/she can go out on his own. My grandparents immigrated from the Far East to Hawaii to work in the sugar plantations for less then 10 cents per hour. That was a form of slavery. If they left the company, they would have no job, no money, and they couldn't survive, so they had to stay to live. AKM
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Post by mouse on Feb 16, 2012 3:49:29 GMT -5
quite right AkAMAI... slavery comes in many forms...and true slavery is alive and well and still a flourishing trade but i think i am right in saying only one group has it in built in their manifesto
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Post by akamai on Feb 16, 2012 21:09:04 GMT -5
quite right AkAMAI... slavery comes in many forms...and true slavery is alive and well and still a flourishing trade but i think i am right in saying only one group has it in built in their manifesto You are right. Some people actually like being in prison, and some actually like being a "slave". In prison, there is no worries about bills or taxes. In slavery, a slave does no have to worry about his personal finances and a place to live.
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