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Post by ladylinda on Oct 24, 2011 15:38:16 GMT -5
Ok, you keep the blinkers on. [/quote No thanks, Fret. I'll leave the wearing the blinkers to you! I prefer to keep my eyes and ears open!  |
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Post by fretslider on Oct 24, 2011 16:08:50 GMT -5
Ok, you keep the blinkers on. [/quote No thanks, Fret. I'll leave the wearing the blinkers to you! I prefer to keep my eyes and ears open! The evidence is entirely to the contrary. But that's nothing new. |
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Post by arizonavet on Oct 24, 2011 16:11:27 GMT -5
Did y'all know that in America, the devices worn by draft horses to keep them "focused" was called "blinders"?
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Post by fretslider on Oct 24, 2011 16:16:12 GMT -5
Wasn't the point here to show that an abnormally large percentage of the rioters were not Brit nationals? That they might have actually been freeloading, unemployed bums from other countries that have been allowed to stay in the UK, and were stabbing their host country in the back? Reguardless of their skin color? That's only a part of it, AV. Its an English problem.... It was a trap. Starkey's debating opponent was Owen Jones, the BBC's new pet angry young socialist whose default position is perpetual umbrage and righteous rage on behalf of the poor, working class, oppressed and – now, apparently – black people. |
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Post by fretslider on Oct 24, 2011 16:16:49 GMT -5
Did y'all know that in America, the devices worn by draft horses to keep them "focused" was called "blinders"? Yes, well here they're called blinkers! |
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Post by ladylinda on Oct 24, 2011 17:00:07 GMT -5
Ok, you keep the blinkers on. [/quote No thanks, Fret. I'll leave the wearing the blinkers to you! I prefer to keep my eyes and ears open! The evidence is entirely to the contrary. But that's nothing new. I'm not arrogant enough to think I'm always right; I've had my mind changed on a few issues. A couple of times, even on message boards. I'm not personalising this debate. I hope you won't either. As far as I'm concerned your ideas are wrong. As far as you're concerned mine are. IMO the facts support MY point of view; in yours they support yours. Perhaps we should just agree to disagree. |
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Post by chriswood on Oct 25, 2011 3:39:29 GMT -5
Compromise is the word I believe.
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Post by mouse on Oct 25, 2011 3:47:47 GMT -5
Wasn't the point here to show that an abnormally large percentage of the rioters were not Brit nationals? That they might have actually been freeloading, unemployed bums from other countries that have been allowed to stay in the UK, and were stabbing their host country in the back? Reguardless of their skin color? that they were mostly free loaders cannot be disputed that starkey made a very relevent point also cannot be disputed skin colour does how ever play a part which cannot be disputed and also that many came from abroad also cannot be disputed it also cannot be disputed that there are those who on seeing the riots wanted to see this are some great political ""the under dog rising against opression.... or as the rising of young blacks disenfranchised by society blah blah blah and it was very noticble that it was dependednt on which part of the country riots ocured as to what the overall skin tones were saldord for instance is a haven of white dross parts of london it was black dross the words of the rioters them selves told the truth of the matter..this was nothing more than an oportunist ruck with freebies in the main along side with what two young black girls called a chance to get back at whitey """to show them"" |
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Post by mouse on Oct 25, 2011 3:53:03 GMT -5
oh and i absolutely agree with what starkey has to say....ans we can see it and hear it every time young people are interviewed in certain parts of the country...more so in the south than the north
and it is interesting that starkey is speaking in a very normal way...he isnt going over the top or being dogmatic or hysterical...he gives a calm and reasoned acount
a point that when we talk of immigration numbers which is always overlooked when massaging those numbers
our population has risen tremendously via immigration
....but every one apears to over look the fact that at least half a million white brits leave every year and yet the population never decreases..so obviously those empty places are filled with incomming people AS WELL as the increase in numbers to the population overall
so the numbers of new commers is decidedly larger than we are given to believe
this is unsustainable...to lose work/skills expertise like this and replace it with those of no expertiese is mindbendly stupid
and i fear this years riots are simply a small sigh of what is to come...the balance has been wilfully changed and we will all suffer from this...indigenous and immigrant alike
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Post by arizonavet on Oct 25, 2011 8:23:14 GMT -5
Did y'all know that in America, the devices worn by draft horses to keep them "focused" was called "blinders"? Yes, well here they're called blinkers! We should have never allowed you folks to be anything more than a colony of America... now you're telling us how to speak English ;D Good morning Fret... And good morning Linda.....my long time cyber-buddy. We may disagree on this one....these ungrateful slobs that come to your country & just riot & raise hell should be sent home. Too bad both our countries can't just send our rioting leftists to some Marxist country. But then, even Marxist countries have their "standards". |
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Post by arizonavet on Oct 25, 2011 8:34:53 GMT -5
Wasn't the point here to show that an abnormally large percentage of the rioters were not Brit nationals? That they might have actually been freeloading, unemployed bums from other countries that have been allowed to stay in the UK, and were stabbing their host country in the back? Reguardless of their skin color? that they were mostly free loaders cannot be disputed that starkey made a very relevent point also cannot be disputed skin colour does how ever play a part which cannot be disputed and also that many came from abroad also cannot be disputed it also cannot be disputed that there are those who on seeing the riots wanted to see this are some great political ""the under dog rising against opression.... or as the rising of young blacks disenfranchised by society blah blah blah and it was very noticble that it was dependednt on which part of the country riots ocured as to what the overall skin tones were saldord for instance is a haven of white dross parts of london it was black dross the words of the rioters them selves told the truth of the matter..this was nothing more than an oportunist ruck with freebies in the main along side with what two young black girls called a chance to get back at whitey """to show them"" Dross? OK...you could be right... No one could deny that during the last American election, Obama, half-black, garnered over 93% of the black vote....appreciably more than any (white) liberal politition before him. Predjudice takes all form & color. This does not mean that any government should fall prey to the same unfair practice in enforceing the law. If they are white or black, or any color inbetween.....kick the bums out...send them home...for good. Really nausiating to me that underpriviliged citizens from other countries are welcomed into any country....and all they want to do is wreck the beautiful predominantly Capitalist country's economy by demanding Marxist "values" or privileges....or create a atmosphere of wealth envy....pitting the citizens who welcomed them....against each other. Could that be what is happening? |
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