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Post by Tempus Fugit on Dec 26, 2013 8:37:03 GMT -5
Another one who didn't read his terms and conditions of employment regarding adherence to food hygiene regs (I'm supposing) and won:- sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/12/20/mcdonalds-to-pay-50000-to-settle-lawsuit-with-bearded-employee/Note he quit of his own volition as opposed to being sacked, and seemingly didn't seek to take the matter higher up the company for resolution of grievance and seemingly didn't accept/propose a compromise where he could wear his beard 24/7 and a snood whilst at work. Ordinarily, I'm fairly certain that an industrial tribunal on this side of the pond would tell you to jog on if you hadn't fully exhausted the standard-in-law company procedures before feeling "constructively dismissed." Surely on the west side of the water it's possible to argue the same? The comments are interesting, to say the least - the first one about goat fornication at work makes the point quite clearly, albeit rather sarcastically.
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Dec 27, 2013 4:22:41 GMT -5
Says it all, really.
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Dec 29, 2013 9:10:21 GMT -5
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Dec 30, 2013 4:37:51 GMT -5
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Post by maggie on Dec 30, 2013 4:57:44 GMT -5
Why on earth should they be spared the shame when on trial for a criminal offence, what's so special about them? Other criminals don't get to have an order to prevent them being shamed in their community!
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Post by mouse on Dec 30, 2013 5:10:54 GMT -5
but according to muslims nothing which brings muslims or islam into disrepute should be allowed and according to their culture...ahem...[thought they were suppose to be Brits so dunno what culture they are representing ] family doesn't tollorate shame..lol any way they should be used to shame...all the grooming gangs..fraudster etc
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Post by men an tol on Dec 30, 2013 8:36:12 GMT -5
The important question is, 'why do elements in Western culture put up with and empower these alien concepts and beliefs.” Beliefs which are antithetical to Western philosophy.
I'm not surprised at these actions by those of Islam as they do not know any better and represent a concept of life better fitted to the middle ages and feudalism, rather, it is those in the West who accept such beliefs as equal to Western culture.
If such people wish to come to Western cultures to escape these barbaric beliefs, fine, let them all come, but if it is to bring their their medieval beliefs to the West, I , for one, would rather that they stay in their home countries and those already in the West were sent back to their home countries.
I guess it may be time to consider a re-instituting of The Knights Templar' to save the West.
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Post by mouse on Dec 30, 2013 9:17:46 GMT -5
The important question is, 'why do elements in Western culture put up with and empower these alien concepts and beliefs.” Beliefs which are antithetical to Western philosophy. I'm not surprised at these actions by those of Islam as they do not know any better and represent a concept of life better fitted to the middle ages and feudalism, rather, it is those in the West who accept such beliefs as equal to Western culture. If such people wish to come to Western cultures to escape these barbaric beliefs, fine, let them all come, but if it is to bring their their medieval beliefs to the West, I , for one, would rather that they stay in their home countries and those already in the West were sent back to their home countries. I guess it may be time to consider a re-instituting of The Knights Templar' to save the West. I think the why we put up with it is that we are perhaps more worldly wise and realise that all have a view even those we dislike and have in a way grown up to the fact that killing some one who disagrees with you is not really going to solve anything...because we have possibly travelled more and had many experiences......seen and accepted differences even within our families we have learnt to be more tollorant......plus we have experienced as cultures just what religious and political divides can do to people..it tears countries people and families apart..no one gains anything.....so why perpetuate such systems...BUT having nearly got our house in order..what do we do...we import hate..intollorance etc ...doesn't make a lot of sense does it
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Post by men an tol on Dec 30, 2013 11:37:44 GMT -5
Mouse, your comments are right on the mark.
Cultures are always in contact with each other and those contacts generally benefit all as new concepts are learned and those most beneficial replace those less so. Of course that is based on the idea that there is some type of common ground where that learning can occur. When one or the other culture shuts out any learning or accepting of the other, then no learning will occur. More over if one of those cultures thinks so little of itself as to not even teach their own children the benefits of itself, it will never teach people from another culture and this is the situation we have today.
There is nothing new or unknown in the contact between Western culture and Islam as it has been going on for more than 1,000 years. During that time Western culture has evolved from a Roman structured Christian culture into a culture primarily focused on the individual and the rights of that individual. During that same period the Islamic culture has remained static, focused on centralized rule in a medieval feudal structure with no appreciation of individual rights and with the intent of replacing Western values with Sharia Law. The only compromise here is on the part of the West. Compromise to Islam is always ceding to the other. Agreements are merely short periods of regrouping to forget the agreements and then continue the fight to replace all with Islam and Sharia Law.
For the West to succeed it must first believe in itself and this should not be difficult as Western philosophy is superior. The West must begin teaching Western philosophy to its children. The West must stand firm against Islam and cede nothing to it.
I mentioned The Knights Templar because they (at one time) represented something that Islam respects, that is, useable strength. The nations of Islam understand little else than the (figuratively) mailed fist and The Knights Templar represent that unbending position of defending Western philosophy.
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Post by mouse on Dec 31, 2013 5:52:42 GMT -5
trouble is we are infiltrated by apologists and false liberals...who appear to think it our duty to bow the knew to any culture not our own and to disgard our cultural norms at any ones whim what these fools fail to realise is that indoing so...we throw away the very thing so many come from afar to partake of I belive in the west[generalising] and I belive its norms are by and large superior to others[this of course makes me racist ] however I can live with that...[believing our system is superior is not the same as believing our peoples are superior] we had got to a good place in general and were improving the lot of the peoples of Europe..and bingo what happens...we import millions and millions who have a totally different mindset....thus no one gains least of all theose who pay the piper[taxpayer] the voter..the hard worker sold down river for a cheaper version... it wouldn't be too hard to change our society...but will it happen...mmm big doubt there
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Jan 1, 2014 6:56:51 GMT -5
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Post by maggie on Jan 1, 2014 7:06:42 GMT -5
Good article, especially the comparison with him and people who have been jailed for much lesser remarks.
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Post by fretslider on Jan 1, 2014 7:40:53 GMT -5
Good article, especially the comparison with him and people who have been jailed for much lesser remarks. And yet again... 'Comments are closed.'
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Jan 1, 2014 9:18:26 GMT -5
Since we're mentioning good ol' Andy, there's a new rant from our Pat:-
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Post by Tempus Fugit on Jan 1, 2014 9:27:29 GMT -5
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