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Post by Soulman on May 5, 2012 5:25:47 GMT -5
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Post by fretslider on May 5, 2012 6:07:02 GMT -5
On BBC 1 at the moment: Should halal and kosher meat be labelled? The programme said that the government narrowly voted against ............ yes against...... labelling recently! So people of the UK, you are not just up against the islamofascits , you are up against your own government. I know ritual slaughter might not be no.1 on people's agenda, but it is very important to me not to eat meat that has been cruelly treated. I think I may become a veggie. Narrowly voted against? The vote was 73 votes to 70. So where were the other 507 MPs?
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Post by mouse on May 5, 2012 7:11:34 GMT -5
m akes one wonder as one of the letters says...just how many sleepers we have in our country... 'Brilliant' nuclear scientist who worked at Cern laboratory jailed for plotting attacks for Al-Qaeda Adlene Hicheur, 35, sentenced to five years after police intercepted emails to terrorist group A brilliant nuclear scientist working at the Cern nuclear laboratory was today sentenced to five in prison for plotting attacks on behalf of Al-Qaeda Adlene Hicheur, who is French and from an Algerian background and who studied in England, was arrested in 2009 after police intercepted emails he sent to the Islamic terrorist organisation. Judges sitting at Paris Correctional Court said the 35-year-old should serve five years, with one suspended. Hicheur's trial comes in the wake of 23-year-old Mohammed Merah murdering seven victims in the south west of France earlier this year. Technology: The Cern laboratories near Geneva is home to the large hadron collider experiment which aims to understand the birth of the Universe Both men grew up on French council estates, came from Algerian backgrounds, and have alleged links with radical religious groups who wanted to start a global jihad. Referring to Merah murdering French troops in two French towns, Hicheur's lawyer Patrick Baudouin said: 'Clearly, the events of Toulouse and Montauban don't appear to create the most favorable conditions for the trial of Adlene Hicheur.' Mr Baudouin added: 'Hicheur must not become a scapegoat for a case he has nothing to do with.' After completing a thesis on high energy in 2003, Hicheur was a postgraduate at the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, at Chilton, near Didcot, Oxfordshire. Tension: Hicheur's trial comes in the wake of 23-year-old Mohammed Merah murdering seven victims in the south west of France earlier this year Hicheur was arrested by anti-terrorist police in October 2009 at his parents' flat on an estate on the outskirts of Lyon, in eastern France - close to CERN, which straddles the Franco-Swiss border. Detectives and security agents found masses of Al-Qaeda literature at his own flat nearby, including advice on how to carry out terrorist crimes. Hicheur had also been corresponding by email with Mustapha Debchi, a known member of Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) based in Algeria. On March 1, 2009, Hicheur wrote an email to Debchi proposing 'possible targets in Europe, and particularly in France.' On March 10, Hicheur sent another saying: 'Concerning the subject of targets - they differ depending what you want to achieve following the hits. 'For example: if it's about punishing the state because of its military activities in Muslim countries like Afghanistan, then it should be a purely military objective. 'For example - the air base at Cran-Gevrier, near Annecy, in France. This base trains troops and sends them to Afghanistan.' Debchi wrote to Hicheur in June 2009, and asked: 'Do not beat around the bush: are you prepared to work in a unit becoming active in France?' Hicheur replied on June 6: 'Concerning your proposal, the answer is of course YES..' Prosecutors said the email exchanges 'crossed the line of simple debate on political or religious ideas and entered the sphere of terrorist violence.' Hicheur has been on remand in a high-security jail since his arrest, but deniesd the charge of plotting terrorist. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2139575/Brilliant-nuclear-scientist-worked-Cern-laboratory-jailed-plotting-attacks-Al-Qaeda.html#ixzz1tzrAGHsF
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Post by maggie on May 5, 2012 10:09:18 GMT -5
From the article - please read: Non-Muslim Britons are being forced to eat animals slaughtered in "appalling" pain because religious butchering is becoming so common, a former chief vet has claimed.
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Post by fretslider on May 5, 2012 12:53:06 GMT -5
From the article - please read: Non-Muslim Britons are being forced to eat animals slaughtered in "appalling" pain because religious butchering is becoming so common, a former chief vet has claimed. When it comes to an issue like this, where is the RSPCA, where are the animal rights activists?
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Post by markindurham on May 5, 2012 13:05:23 GMT -5
From the article - please read: Non-Muslim Britons are being forced to eat animals slaughtered in "appalling" pain because religious butchering is becoming so common, a former chief vet has claimed. When it comes to an issue like this, where is the RSPCA, where are the animal rights activists? At a guess, too scared to confront the enrichment...
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Post by harryfisher on May 5, 2012 15:04:34 GMT -5
From the article - please read: Non-Muslim Britons are being forced to eat animals slaughtered in "appalling" pain because religious butchering is becoming so common, a former chief vet has claimed. When it comes to an issue like this, where is the RSPCA, where are the animal rights activists? Simple, animal rights activists are mostly lefties like the UAF, there is no way they will go against Muslims, they are hypocrites.
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Post by Soulman on May 6, 2012 7:17:23 GMT -5
This is footage from yesterdays protest in Luton. It is worth watching the whole thing.
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Post by Soulman on May 7, 2012 5:56:21 GMT -5
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Post by markindurham on May 7, 2012 6:07:42 GMT -5
<<German Federal Office of Constitution protection has come to a conclusion that Salafist traditions do not comply with the German constitution as the Salafists deny democracy basic principles, human rights and gender equality. There are passages in the Koran about violence, especially against women, who are not protected by Sharia law as men are. Also, violence against the unfaithful is acceptable>> *loud 'thud' as penny drops*
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Post by fretslider on May 7, 2012 6:20:15 GMT -5
<<German Federal Office of Constitution protection has come to a conclusion that Salafist traditions do not comply with the German constitution as the Salafists deny democracy basic principles, human rights and gender equality. There are passages in the Koran about violence, especially against women, who are not protected by Sharia law as men are. Also, violence against the unfaithful is acceptable>> *loud 'thud' as penny drops* Meanwhile in the uk... Research has highlighted three major obstacles to human development within Arab countries. They are: absence of freedom; gender inequality; and knowledge deficit. Although these findings relate to Arab countries, they apply to all Muslim societies. - The Muslim Parliament of Great Britain Sheesh, a parliament too. One year after the Arab awakening, Salafi organizations and political parties are playing an increasingly active role throughout the MENA region. The Saudi and Qatari Salafi organizations are very active domestically and internationally. They support other Salafi groups around the world, in West Africa (Senegal, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, etc.), in North Africa (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia) as well as across the Middle East and Asia (Egypt, Lebanon, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc.) up to and including the European and American countries.Their support is primarily ideological and financial, aimed at spreading a specific message of Islam with books, brochures, lectures and the building of mosques and institutions.
All Salafi organizations share a highly literalist approach to the scriptural sources, generally focusing on the visible dimensions of the Islamic references (rules and jurisprudence, fiqh) in daily life: licit or illicit behavior (halal and haram), dress codes, rituals, etc.
The literalist Salafi approach is gaining ground in many countries (even in the West) and among young people as it promotes a simple black-and-white (halal-haram) understanding of Islam. Muslims, they argue, must isolate themselves from the corrupt surrounding societies, and avoid involvement in politics. This binary vision of the world (Muslims versus the others, the good versus the bad, protected religious purity versus corrupting political involvement) has shaped over the years a religious mindset based on isolation, defensiveness and sharp judgments (who is within Islam and who is a dangerous innovator, or even outside the faith).
www.onislam.net/english/politics/middle-east/456474-the-salafi-equation.html
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Post by markindurham on May 7, 2012 6:27:20 GMT -5
Meanwhile in the uk... Research has highlighted three major obstacles to human development within Arab countries. They are: absence of freedom; gender inequality; and knowledge deficit. Although these findings relate to Arab countries, they apply to all Muslim societies. - The Muslim Parliament of Great Britain Sheesh, a parliament too. One year after the Arab awakening, Salafi organizations and political parties are playing an increasingly active role throughout the MENA region. The Saudi and Qatari Salafi organizations are very active domestically and internationally. They support other Salafi groups around the world, in West Africa (Senegal, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, etc.), in North Africa (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia) as well as across the Middle East and Asia (Egypt, Lebanon, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc.) up to and including the European and American countries.Their support is primarily ideological and financial, aimed at spreading a specific message of Islam with books, brochures, lectures and the building of mosques and institutions.
All Salafi organizations share a highly literalist approach to the scriptural sources, generally focusing on the visible dimensions of the Islamic references (rules and jurisprudence, fiqh) in daily life: licit or illicit behavior (halal and haram), dress codes, rituals, etc.
The literalist Salafi approach is gaining ground in many countries (even in the West) and among young people as it promotes a simple black-and-white (halal-haram) understanding of Islam. Muslims, they argue, must isolate themselves from the corrupt surrounding societies, and avoid involvement in politics. This binary vision of the world (Muslims versus the others, the good versus the bad, protected religious purity versus corrupting political involvement) has shaped over the years a religious mindset based on isolation, defensiveness and sharp judgments (who is within Islam and who is a dangerous innovator, or even outside the faith).
www.onislam.net/english/politics/middle-east/456474-the-salafi-equation.htmlInteresting link... Hehe, at first glance I thought that URL was 'onanism.net' ;D
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Post by mouse on May 7, 2012 6:51:37 GMT -5
""""Research has highlighted three major obstacles to human development within Arab countries. They are: absence of freedom; gender inequality; and knowledge deficit. Although these findings relate to Arab countries, they apply to all Muslim societies. - The Muslim Parliament of Great Britain""" they dont even kinow their own history and thegeneral knowledge deficit is deep and wide
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Post by mouse on May 7, 2012 6:59:34 GMT -5
and one of the reasons for the knowledge deficit...read on..when men think like this... ""The only responsibility men owe to women is their sustenance,""
Curtailing ‘immodesty’: Fatwa against female education and in favour of compulsory marriage for female NGO workers
From the Express Tribune KOHISTAN / DASSU: A former lawmaker and cleric from Kohistan district, Maulana Abdul Haleem, termed formal education for women un-Islamic and asked parents to pluck their daughters from school, or else they would be ‘doomed’. The nonagenarian, who was elected to the National Assembly from Kohistan on the now-defunct Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal’s ticket in 2002, also railed against non-governmental organisations (NGOs) working in the region in his Friday sermon, calling them ‘hubs of immodesty’. Maulana Haleem, who was an office-bearer of the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazl until recently, was delivering a Friday sermon, at Jamia Masjid Komila, on who is dayoos, or those liable to be condemned to hell. “It’s beghairti (immodesty) to equip girls with secular education,” the cleric said, adding that those Kohistani parents who were sending their girls to schools were acting against ‘Islamic shariah’ He did not spare female NGO workers either. “Some women from these NGOs visit our houses frequently, mobilising naïve Kohistani women to follow their agenda in the name of health and hygiene education,” he said, adding that this was ‘unacceptable to Kohistani culture’. He threatened them with ‘dire consequences’, saying that married female NGO workers will be sent back to their husbands, and the unmarried ones will be wedded to Kohistani men. When approached for comments, the cleric stood by the contents of his sermon, and insisted that several Hadith books prohibit girls from receiving degrees and certificates in ‘secular education’. . . . the cleric said that formal education paves the way for girls to enter the job market. “When they permit their women to work, they give them a free hand to mix with na-mehrum (men they are not related to by blood) – by doing so, the girl’s father, brother or husband become dayoos in the eye of the shariah,” he said. Such people will never enter Paradise, he added. The only responsibility men owe to women is their sustenance, and not education, he said. In return, the women should stay at home and look after their children and family members, he added. He claimed that 97% of girls schools in Kohistan were closed and the few girls that were enrolled, only visited their schools to collect cooking oil which the education department was distributing with the support of foreign donors.
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Post by fretslider on May 7, 2012 7:11:17 GMT -5
Their idea of paradise is my idea of hell.
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