Post by akamai on Sept 18, 2011 1:28:43 GMT -5
Sept 17, 2011 11:31:58 GMT -5 @lewis said:
Lewis> With, as your are well aware, NO way of challenging an erroneous decision (even the US Supreme Court has admitted that on occasion it too has erred).
Akamai> Lewis, you are ignorant. Erroneous decisions are challenged in every single death sentence. It is called "appeals", and the appeal is required in Texas and California, even if the condemned wishes to forfiet his appeals.There is no doubt that there has been errors in verdicts and trial procedures, as we have people exonerated from their convictions while serving time, or even posthumously.
The problem with the anti DP faction, is when they cannot find a case, they say it is "impossible" when it is not, or at least the procedure is not. What has been impossible, is actually finding such a case. because 100% of all the convicted has been found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt to begin with.
Akamai
I'm ignorant, Akamai? I'm not the one claiming the existence of a venue for your cited "posthumous exoneration" - you are. In all of our history, there has been but one such exoneration - Chipita Rodriguez, and there are those who even so STILL claim that she was guilty.
Now, then - you've bluffed and misrepresented, and your hand is called. Go, or get off the pot: Identify the definitive procedure you keep citing.
Lewis,
Chipita Rodrigues was exonerated, but not proven definitively innocent. In the days she was hanged, they hanged people for stealing horses or cattle, along with murder and rape.
There was an attempt to have an executed exonerated, that was Roger Keith Coleman, but the problem was he was confirmed guilty by DNA testing. There was another case, Joseph O'Dell, who failed because the DNA evidence was ordered destroyed, but it looked to me, that he was guilty.
The venue does exist. The problem is to find an innocent but executed is extremely rare, and no one has found one yet. IF it is impossible, it is not because there is no venue, it is because there is no such case where an innocent but executed can be proven definitively innocent.
Akamai.