Horsemeat-eaters being awkward again !

[toby1]

""By your logic then tell me HOW DO YOU KNOW trumps inaction did not cost hundreds of thousands of lives? ""

What ,"inaction" ?? You are creating a straw man here !! I remember President Trump announcing that he would stop incoming flights from China and Joe Bidet accusing him of xenophobia.
I remember Dr Fauci advising everybody that there was no need to wear a mask, this on National TV. There was No Inaction, we had plenty of stuff to see on TV !

"Also your view of WHO is incredibly simplistic, Trump made accusations and claimed outright lies about WHO."
You are correct, well done Apple ! I shall put this in my diary, a first for you ! Yes my view of the WHO is simplistic but that is because I know next to nothing about the WHO other than it is based in the USA and was funded by the USA for $500 million per annum.
It does seem that the WHO has some links to the Wuhan Lab doing research on various diseases, some of the research they were doing is forbidden to be performed inside the USA.
"Outright Lies", that does seem far-fetched but I am sure you can come up with a few verifiable stories ??

[jackthelad]

Toby says,
Germany is in the throes of covid 19 with a high death rate, so is Holland, Italy so if first world countries couldn't handle the Pandemic then what chance has North America with all the teeming millions stuck in ghettoes


Now North America has continually stated it is the Worlds most leading Country, then has soon as Donald Trump takes over as President it becomes a third world country. Elect a third rate President i suppose you become a third rate country.
Most countries have places they call ghettoes, America is not alone with that. Just saying.

[toby1]

@jack"Now North America has continually stated it is the Worlds most leading Country""

Yes it has and it is all Bluff and Bluster aided and abetted by the Media and Hollywood !

The USA does have a first world Military, it has a first world space programme and Healthcare but all the rest is third world.
Near where I live are some of the worst roads you can imagine, homelessness is rampant as is the number of drugs takers.
The schools are very poor, the students leave school with a very narrow view of the world and go to massively overpriced colleges to learn Media Studies, art history, sociology and other useless things but like the UK there are not enough Doctors or Nurses because they don't bother to teach enough of them. In Chicago the Teachers did not want to go back to teach ! they had to be cajoled and bullied to go back.

The Political system is corrupt to the core, there is a place in Chicago called Cook County and in all their history there has Never been one fair election, they find ways to cheat and the most popular used to be ,"Ballot Box stuffing", that means stuffing the ballot boxes with loads of fake ballot papers.
It is widely acknowledged that Joe Kennedy bought his son JFK the win in 1960 by Ballot box stuffing.
Nowadays it is manipulation of the voting machines.
One state had over 207,000 extra ballots cast than there were registered voters ! The Media in the USA still put's out the Lie that the elections were fair but everybody knows they were rigged.

[toby1]

@jack"Most countries have places they call ghettoes, America is not alone with that. Just saying."

I had to go to New York to get my wife a New Passport, we stayed overnight due to the long travel, what a Dump it was, Beggers, homeless people, cripples in wheelchairs all over the place and of course drugs and this was around Time Square, supposedly a decent area so what the real ghettoes are like doesn't bear thinking about !
I used to live in Kyoto and I never saw anything like what I saw in Londo, Berlinn or New York on my travels.
There are no ghettoes in Japan !

[jackthelad]

Never been to Japan but one of my Grandsons has, he has travel through most of Asia, he says of all the places he has been to Japan was the nicest and cleanest. Never mentioned seeing any Ghettoes in all the Asian countries he has been too. When it is safe to do so, he say he wants to travel across America from East to West, just wonder if he might talk about all the American ghettoes he comes across while he was there. Just saying.

[toby1]

Japan is the nicest and cleanest, your Grandson is correct but Singapore and Taiwan are also very good and clean as is South Korea.
Your Grandson needs to stay out of the Ghettoes in the USA, some of the inhabitants would slit your throat for $10.