|
Post by fretslider on Jan 5, 2019 10:39:00 GMT -5
I reckon the EU is more aligned to Communisn than Fascism. Communism and fascism are no different. Same methods, same results. The clue is in National Socialism.
|
|
|
Post by fretslider on Jan 5, 2019 10:41:43 GMT -5
well Macroni has said the new/raised taxes have been postponed for the time being … violence works peaceful protest does not sheeeesh she is nothing like the fragrant Hillary .. praise be...and I would sugest her longevity in politics suggests she does have charisma.. but Charisma is not necessarily a requisite for doing a job the reason she was elected was because the men of politics were worse than useless.. and still are regardless of party politics … never mind.. Europe has over the last couple of years had warnings to its rulers.. as virtually every country has had some kind of political upheaval... large or small doesn't matter...but its begun ...the realisation that its time for change and the ruling are trying by every means possible to hold on …. I don't think she would have done so well were it not for her husband. Macroni is a rich man piling taxes on the poor, doing the rich man's idle whims such as climate change. Hillaries tiny rallies show how poor a canditate she was. She is not cut out for President. She is only in it for personal gain anyway. It is just a job for her, it is about her career, not the country, she will say anything to get elected, just recently
she has been speaking out against immigration in Euorpe, another U-turn. She would say anything to be president, always following not leading. Unlike Trump who does not care a jot who he upsets!!
She is only in it for personal gain anyway.And the other 649?
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Jan 6, 2019 5:54:38 GMT -5
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/violent-scenes-in-paris-as-yellow-vest-protest-numbers-soar-again/ar-BBRQkll?ocid=spartandhp© Provided by The Press Association The march was peaceful until some protesters attempted to deviate from their approved route and cross a bridge (Kamil Zihnioglu/AP) Riot police and firefighters moved in, and barricades mounted in the middle of the wide street also glowed in flames. The march on the eighth consecutive Saturday of yellow vest protests had been declared in advance and approved, in contrast to some illegal December demonstrations that degenerated into vandalism, looting and chaos. The atmosphere was mostly calm, but turned when some protesters tried to cross the river on a pedestrian bridge not on the official route from City Hall to the National Assembly. Police used clubs and tear gas, then held the bridge in a stand-off while violence broke out. Further confrontations between police and protesters took place in other cities around France, with tear gas fired in Bordeaux and in Rouen, Normandy.
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Jan 7, 2019 6:16:56 GMT -5
and lest any one should fall for the lie that protests are just a handful of trouble makers … watch and enjoy www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/231794514379446/mean while in other parts of Europe and the UK protests still happen all though not reported on the pro EU BBC....which continues to prate lie after lie
|
|
|
Post by Sysop3 on Jan 7, 2019 10:35:05 GMT -5
and lest any one should fall for the lie that protests are just a handful of trouble makers … watch and enjoy www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/231794514379446/mean while in other parts of Europe and the UK protests still happen all though not reported on the pro EU BBC....which continues to prate lie after lie I don't especially care for BBC but Facebook is worse. It's a vile, propaganda machine, mouse, used by Russia, et al.
|
|
|
Post by men an tol on Jan 7, 2019 12:47:56 GMT -5
I agree with you about Facebook, Sysop3. I don’t believe that we should expect anything else as it is no more that communication/entertainment which allows nearly anyone to say almost anything. It is also an income generator for its owners. It has no credibility as a news source and never has had such an image.
I find the apparent change in credibility in the BBC to be nearly heartbreaking. There was a day where the BBC always stood offering the heart of the news without worry of bending it to a political agenda. I can remember listening to BBC reports through short wave.
Now as individuals we must be well read and accumulate historic foundation. We as individuals must develop what is important to us (as individuals) through which we can (individually) judge not only the news, but the news source, as well as those reporting.
The internet has opened up our sources and the opportunity for anyone to offer opinion as fact. Two sides of the coin of the internet.
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Jan 8, 2019 5:37:33 GMT -5
and lest any one should fall for the lie that protests are just a handful of trouble makers … watch and enjoy www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/231794514379446/mean while in other parts of Europe and the UK protests still happen all though not reported on the pro EU BBC....which continues to prate lie after lie I don't especially care for BBC but Facebook is worse. It's a vile, propaganda machine, mouse, used by Russia, et al. oh I see so what is happening in Europe is not happening because the BBC ignores it and the BBC wouldn't be beluieved any way and facebook actually has real live filming which is vile propaganda used by Russia[oh not the Russians] etc ….plus news from any source which doesn't pass the Babylon litmus test is not news at all but tabloid nonsence…. but be assured …..that street with its protestors is real and exists as do the thousands of people … disbelieve if you will...….but the leaders of Europe are not so stupid as to pretend its not happening and are clinging on by their fingernails including the UK government ...with Madame still wanting to present a deal to the EU
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Jan 8, 2019 6:01:06 GMT -5
I agree with you about Facebook, Sysop3. I don’t believe that we should expect anything else as it is no more that communication/entertainment which allows nearly anyone to say almost anything. It is also an income generator for its owners. It has no credibility as a news source and never has had such an image. I find the apparent change in credibility in the BBC to be nearly heartbreaking. There was a day where the BBC always stood offering the heart of the news without worry of bending it to a political agenda. I can remember listening to BBC reports through short wave. Now as individuals we must be well read and accumulate historic foundation. We as individuals must develop what is important to us (as individuals) through which we can (individually) judge not only the news, but the news source, as well as those reporting. The internet has opened up our sources and the opportunity for anyone to offer opinion as fact. Two sides of the coin of the internet. the BBC is nothing more than a righton mouthpiece for the snowflakes and wets receiving funding from the EU which is against its charter and so politically correct its up its own backside ….but then we have known that for some time ...and if we want real news then we have to look elswhere
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Jan 8, 2019 7:13:54 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by fretslider on Jan 8, 2019 8:02:39 GMT -5
I can name a few politicians that seem to be somewhat in tune with their people Matteo Salvini, Viktor Orban, Andrej Babiš, Peter Pellegrini and Mateusz Morawiecki. But the EU sees these leaders as evil populists. Some have had Article 7 thrown at them - sanctions, loss of voting rights and funding etc Populists are closer to what electorates want their elected leaders to do. The EU is opposed to them and that. The EU does not like democracy because democracy has a nasty habit of returning the wrong result, as far as they are concerned. Should the President of the European Commission be directly elected?www.debatingeurope.eu/2018/03/08/president-european-commission-directly-elected/#.XDSexVz7T4YWe know the answer.
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Jan 8, 2019 9:14:18 GMT -5
Clarkson: Politically correct BBC 'up itself' by Westmonster Culture January 8, 2019
Jeremy Clarkson has hit out at the BBC’s increasingly metropolitan, lefty London bend, describing it as “politically correct” and “up itself”. In an interview with the Radio Times, he says: “If I ran the BBC, it would be better. I’d make programmes for everybody, not just seven people in Islington.” Clarkson pointed out how: “It’s become so up itself, suffocating the life out of everything with its nonsense need to be politically correct.”
And when it comes to gender on telly at the Beeb, he pointed out how: “Men now just don’t get jobs (at the BBC) at all. “Honestly, poor old Nick Robinson going for an interview for Question Time. What a waste of petrol that was. No chance he’s going to get it. “Anyone who has got a scrotum, forget it.” The BBC has faced criticism recently from pro-Brexit MPs unhappy with the broadcaster describing a No Deal Brexit as ‘crashing out’ and going over a ‘cliff edge’.
|
|
Jessiealan
xr
Member of the Month, October 2013
Posts: 8,726
|
Post by Jessiealan on Jan 8, 2019 9:42:50 GMT -5
I don't especially care for BBC but Facebook is worse. It's a vile, propaganda machine, mouse, used by Russia, et al. oh I see so what is happening in Europe is not happening because the BBC ignores it and the BBC wouldn't be beluieved any way and facebook actually has real live filming which is vile propaganda used by Russia[oh not the Russians] etc ….plus news from any source which doesn't pass the Babylon litmus test is not news at all but tabloid nonsence…. but be assured …..that street with its protestors is real and exists as do the thousands of people … disbelieve if you will...….but the leaders of Europe are not so stupid as to pretend its not happening and are clinging on by their fingernails including the UK government ...with Madame still wanting to present a deal to the EU Not saying never read Facebook but simply be aware they have been caught passing along lies and propaganda more than a few times.
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Jan 8, 2019 10:13:20 GMT -5
oh I see so what is happening in Europe is not happening because the BBC ignores it and the BBC wouldn't be beluieved any way and facebook actually has real live filming which is vile propaganda used by Russia[oh not the Russians] etc ….plus news from any source which doesn't pass the Babylon litmus test is not news at all but tabloid nonsence…. but be assured …..that street with its protestors is real and exists as do the thousands of people … disbelieve if you will...….but the leaders of Europe are not so stupid as to pretend its not happening and are clinging on by their fingernails including the UK government ...with Madame still wanting to present a deal to the EU Not saying never read Facebook but simply be aware they have been caught passing along lies and propaganda more than a few times. very true Jessie.. but then so have governments who are very adept at lying and false information especially to their own peoples .. so its wise to try to be as particular as possible when it comes to sources
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Jan 8, 2019 10:17:48 GMT -5
Note to readers: please click the share buttons above. Forward this article to your email lists. Crosspost on your blog site, internet forums. etc. Notes (*) This is an improvised translation by the author of a portion of a poem by Kostas Varnalis (1984-1974), one of the greatest poets and writers of modern Greece. A communist, a Marxist and a member of the resistance during the Nazi occupation of Greece, he was persecuted for his ideas. (**) It is quite difficult to write an article about France addressed to people who are not living in France. The reason lies with the fact that Western Media doall that they can, indeed with a certain degree of success, in order to play down, distort and conceal the events in France and, most importantly, their significance. Their aim is to present them as some sort of the usual “social upheavals”, without highlighting the underlying causes which have driven the people of one of the most important countries in Europe to revolt against the political system in power. During the military dictatorship in Greece, I was a schoolboy. I remember that the press at that time was full of propaganda, but, at the same time, it was publishing all the basic facts necessary to form an opinion. Through this censored press, controlled by the “black colonels”, Greeks nevertheless knew better what was happening in France during the May ’68 Revolution or with the Vietnam War, than they know now about social and political problems in other EU countries or about the reality of a dozen wars in the Middle East! The “Empire of Finance” which controls the media and most “intellectuals”, the “Space of Ideas” in our societies, in a way that is unprecedented in the history of capitalism, has a vital interest in doing so, as it trembles at the prospect of the “French virus” spreading outside France, as happened in 1789, 1848 and 1968. Besides, even if they wanted to transmit the real meaning of these processes, they wouldn’t be able to do it. Journalism follows democracy on the path to demise. In their efforts to control all information, they have isolated almost all journalists with the knowledge and critical thinking skills that are required to analyse and describe the meaning of a revolution such, as the one that now seems to be unfolding in France. Nowadays, it is often the case that the media do not even choose journalists of their own liking, asking instead political parties and financial lobbies to “accolade” these and appoint “journalists”. The suffocating and total control of the sphere of ideas have led to the creation of a class of “political professionals”, intellectuals, scientists, advertisers and pollsters who have ended up believing their own propaganda and are now unable, to a large extent,to analyse what is happening in the real world, even if this is needed by the class of interests they serve. George Orwell has been proven right. Perhaps this is why the French Le Monde decided to send 70 scientists across France on a quest to understand what’s going on in the country – probably the largest “press expedition” in history!
|
|
|
Post by mouse on Jan 8, 2019 10:35:41 GMT -5
and here is the actual item its self
By Dimitris Konstantakopoulos Global Research, January 07, 2019 Defend Democracy Press 6 January 2019 Region: Europe Theme: History, Police State & Civil Rights 824 6 2 836 “Your heart is too small to hold this many people” — lyrics to a song of the Yellow Vests addressed to Macron “I am not a seed of Chance I, the moulder of the new life I am a child of Need and a mature child of Wrath… …Listen to the voice of the winds For thousands of years! Inside my word all humanity hurts…” Kostas Varnalis (1884-1974), The Guide (Ο Οδηγητής) (*) On the evening of 14 July 1789, the Duke de La Rochefoucauld-Liancourt woke King Louis XVI to inform him about the storming of the Bastille. “Why, is this a rebellion?” the King wondered. “No Sir. It’s a revolution”, replied the Duke. What is happening today in France is one of the most significant political developments on the European continent after the collapse of the Soviet Union almost thirty years ago. It is one of the most radical, deepest and dynamic challenges to modern European capitalism in decades, both in terms of method – the direct, mass mobilisation of people, of the “masses”, their dramatic entry on to the stage of history – as well as in terms of the depth of the movement, as in its demands, which directly question the political and, implicitly but clearly, the social regime.(**). In particular, it is evenly spread throughout France, rather than being restricted to the capital. If we wanted to find a revolutionary movement in Europe reassembling that of the Yellow Vests in terms of massiveness and depth we would probably have to look back to the period 1965-75 or, as a maximum, to 1985. That is, we would look back to the general revolutionary strikes in France and Italy (1968-1969), the ‘Prague Spring’ (1968), the Carnation Revolution in Portugal (1974-1975), the Solidarity revolution in Poland (1979-1981) and, perhaps to a lesser extent, to the long, militant strike of British miners (1984-85). These are all movements which, each one in its own way and despite the differences between them, have profoundly changed how we perceive the world. All were characterised by the same direct form of action, with millions of simple people directly participating, and by the fact that they all questioned the foundations of economic and social organisation and the power system in the countries in which they broke out. All these movements, without exception, were, in one way or another, accompanied by demands for the democratisation of society, self-management and direct participation of people. The momentum of these movements was later halted by the capitulation of Mitterrand’s Socialists, the triumphs of Neo-liberalism in capitalist Europe (the Thatcher-Reagan-Friedman factor),the collapse of the Soviet regime and the “counter-revolutions” in Eastern Europe: “counter-revolutions” which, although advanced through “democratic” slogans, did not lead anywhere, but merely to the economic and political power changing hands from “socialist bureaucracies” to quite authoritarian, oligarchic and sometimes clearly Mafiosi elites, masquerading as democratic governments – “social Darwinists” in the service of International Capital and the US. The Yellow Vests now seem to be picking up in their own way from where the European movements of 1965-85 left off their core fundamental demands, and they are doing so in their attempt to respond to a policy of systematic destruction of French society and, even more so, of its lower and poorer strata. They are doing it within the context of today’s European and global conditions, which differ substantially from those of that period, both in “subjective” and “objective” terms. French and European crises and global economic crisis The French revolution – the term ‘revolution’, we think, being more appropriate, because what is happening in France does not constitute simply a rebellion, as we will attempt to show later – is the direct product of the multifaceted, complex “European” crisis; a crisis which, in its turn, is the product and consequence of two factors: the deep economic crisis into which world capitalism entered in 2008, and the very way in which the European Union has been built and operates. It is important to properly diagnose the root cause of the crisis,and the factors which provoked it, the global and the European one. Because if we assume that the whole problem is due to the Euro and the EU, ignoring the structural crisis of modern world capitalism, then we would come to the conclusion that all a country needs to do is to leave the EU, thereby solving all the problems. Of course, this does not mean that a given country should not attempt to leave the EU, if this is what is required for saving itself. But it means, however, that it must be aware that even by leaving, it will still be confronted by all the problems thrown up by the tremendous power that globalised capitalism and international finance have acquired. Most criticisms of the EU, from various side, are correct. But this is not the main strategic problem. The main question is what is to be the European order of tomorrow and how to ensure that the order which shall be established after the EU will be better and not worse; what is the policy and strategy that, as of now, within the context of the existing EU, can serve better the purpose of creating a radically different and radically better European order tomorrow. This is because a European country, in particular a medium-sized country such as France, may initiate a course of liberation from the bonds of globalised capitalism. But it will not beeasy for any country, even the strongest in Europe, to achieve this on its own in the long-term. The international impact of the French revolutionary movement will be of crucial, vital significance, not only in the long-term, but also in short run, for both the movement itself and for the situation in all of Europe. Any victory or defeat of the Yellow Vests movement depends heavily on its ability to expand and find immediate support in the rest of Europe. On the other hand, the entire European situation will be directly and decisively affected by what will happen in the coming weeks and months in France. However, we have not yet seen any of the forces which wish to self-identify as “radical leftist” in Europe -from the left-wing of Die Linke to the left-wing of the Labour Party-realising fully the significance of what is happening in France; adjusting their activity accordingly, giving absolute priority to the organisation of support to the French people, explaining to their people what is happening in France or even imitating the French movement through the initiation of campaigns in their countries, appropriate and adapted of course to the respective conditions they are facing in every country. We have not seen them attempting to create programmatically, politically and organisationally a united European front, not only of the radical left but also of all the forces that would be willing to commit sincerely to fighting the totalitarian dictatorship of financial capital in Europe. The Hijacking of France (from Donald Trump to Marine Le Pen) What we mostly see are various groups, parties, and aspiring leaders ,the usual strangers to modesty, narcissist stars of “international radicalism and progress”, prominent “intellectuals of the Self-evident”, who, at a moment when one of the most significant revolutions in Europe in the last fifty years is unfolding, are making micro-political electoral calculations in view of the European elections; calculations which too shall prove to be irrelevant within the context of a Europe that continues to be shaken to its very foundations by its crisis. A direct result itself of the 2008 global economic crisis, the European crisis has so far generated, before the current developments in France, the destruction and “betrayed revolt” of Greece, the Indignados and the Podemos in Spain, the left government in Portugal, the BREXIT vote, the surge of the radical right in Italy, the rise of AfD in Germany, the “clinical death” of the German Social Democratic and the French Socialist Party, the rise of Le Pen and Mélenchon in France. However, the developments in France are now taking us to another level, because of twofactors of fundamental significance. The French people, having spent a number of decades hoping in vain for some improvement through the processes of elections and referenda, has now moved to the phase of direct, dynamic and mass mobilisation of the people. Secondly, the French movement is for the first time directly questioning the political and, indirectly but clearly, the social regime. The financial oligarchy which is currently governing Europe together with its employees – the European politicians and bureaucrats – has no answer to the issues raised by the Greeks, Spanish, British, Italians and, even more so, by the French now. For this and for other reasons that we will explain, the French crisis is only the beginning of a course of events, which, of course, we cannot predict and prescribe; nor can we foresee where it will lead; however, we can say with certainty already from now that they will radically change Europe and the world. The developments in France not only coincide with and partly reflect the continuing deep crisis of the EU, a crisis threatening its very existence. The developments are taking place, most probably, on the eve of a new exacerbation of the economic crisis of 2008,against which states now have much fewer means to use for defending themselves than in 2008. And as if all this were not enough, at the international level we also note a rapid deterioration of all the significant global concerns, including the re-emergence of the risk of nuclear war and, most importantly, the near certainty over the end of human life through climatic change and environmental destruction; such defining issues require immediate radical measures that go far beyond the limitations and capabilities of the existing economic, social and international system. Realism and Romanticism The other day a friend, albeit in a well-meant and tactful way, accused me of a sort of “revolutionary romanticism”, referring to my most recent article about the developments in France. I will leave aside the fact that, as it soon transpired from our conversation, he was not aware of the most elementary information such as what are the main demands of the Yellow Vest movement; instead he perceived as real not what is really happening in France – of course for this the media is more to blame for not giving out all the information – but what he himself thought is likely to be happening! Living in Greece he thought that in France, too, politicians could throw some “revolutionary buzzwords” just to gather votes, as it so often is the case with Greek politicians. So he was trying to interpret the French movement from the point of view of our current moral and intellectual misery, which is the result of our overwhelming defeat of 2015 and the way it has come about. It may also be that deep inside, he could find difficult, and even be annoyed by the comparison between the current grandeur of a revolting people with our own, now humiliated and defeated, miserable
|
|