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Post by Jessiealan on Sept 1, 2017 18:05:13 GMT -5
lol Well of course they are .. always realizing some criminals are dangerous and others are just trying to make their way. I doesn't matter. Trump just announced he's dumping the DACA program, even though Paul Ryan and others had asked him not to. He said he'll announce it during the weekend. The GOP in Congress is pushing back and asking Trump not to drop the Dreamers. They are very concerned the action will cause a back lash from the Democrats they need to pass important legislation this fall. Watch the presidential tweets tomorrow morning for some kind of indication about what he is going to do. |
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Post by Jessiealan on Sept 1, 2017 18:09:02 GMT -5
There are illegals who come into the country to work and give their children a better future. That probably accounts for most of them. The others come in to make money illegally (with drugs, possibly prostitution) and should be put out of the U.S. as soon as they are caught doing something illegal. why do you makes excuses for law breakers? do you not see the irony of your remark? lol put out the ones doing illegal activities but let the other illegals stay because they warm your little heart....they are ALL illegal and breaking the law or do we get to pick and choose which laws are convenient to break? I learned to quit feeding strays a long time ago...if only the bleeding hearts would. Arpaio is a law breaker. I don't see you caring about his pardon. How typical of you to drag out the old "bleeding hearts" hue and cry to try to make your case when you are wrong. |
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Post by Jessiealan on Sept 1, 2017 18:10:49 GMT -5
"little heart", Chef? You might want to give that some thought. “O wad some Power the giftie gie us, to see oursels as ithers see us!"
I really wish you wouldn't take things out of context. warm your little heart and bless your pea-picking little heart....neither phrase intended to insult All those are Southern insults. I spent a large part of my life in the southern U. S. and understand what you're doing, Chef. Deeply rude. |
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Post by beth on Sept 1, 2017 23:53:25 GMT -5
lol Well of course they are .. always realizing some criminals are dangerous and others are just trying to make their way. I doesn't matter. Trump just announced he's dumping the DACA program, even though Paul Ryan and others had asked him not to. He said he'll announce it during the weekend. The GOP in Congress is pushing back and asking Trump not to drop the Dreamers. They are very concerned the action will cause a back lash from the Democrats they need to pass important legislation this fall. Watch the presidential tweets tomorrow morning for some kind of indication about what he is going to do. The President has gone from saying he'll make a decision this weekend to claiming it will be Tuesday before we'll know. The feedback from some GOP who oppose dropping the program must have caught him by surprise. The rumors about Trump and Kelly not getting along have picked up, btw. No idea if there's any connection. |
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Post by mouse on Sept 2, 2017 3:46:44 GMT -5
doesn't matter what reason they enter illegally for entering ilegally is still a crime... thy are breaking the law and you Americans are cutting your own throats...though I believe the tipping point has already been passed and the throat is already cut.. rather like ours just because some one enters your country breaking the law but for what is seen as a good reason it doesn't make the long term impact any easier and there will be trouble in the future be assured what is happening around the world will get more devisive as apposing sides fight for supremacy and for materials/utilities etc etc etc its already happening but its being kept more or less in check ..but western governments are terrified of the people and right now are playing the old divide and counquer the good old EU..one of the things it did was form a large militia..at very considerable costs..a militia not an army.. and this large militia of trained personel was for.... as a check to civil disturbance.. and yet there was at the time no civil disturbance and remained so for years it was thought it could well have been used in Greeece when supossedly their own forces etc fired on the population not so very long ago and got to grips on a one to one also..and those forces who set about unarmed Greeks were masked and hooded... the same happened in Spain so I read you will find no reference to this prevention of civil disturbance militia .. I have searched like mad and yet I know they exist and have read reference to them in the past .. there were two boards that mentioned the militia neither are functioning any more but millions were spent in training and setting up this multi peopled group paid for out of EU monies which comes via taxes from peoples across the EU mouse, I don't think you can compare our illegals from south of the border to your illegans from the eastern Muslim countries. It's a whole different situation. an illegal act is still an illegal act and a criminal offence regardless of who commits it and long term the results will be the same for America/Canada as for UK/Europe...luckily I will not be around to see what happens... but history repeats and repeats if people do nothing |
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Post by fretslider on Sept 2, 2017 5:46:56 GMT -5
Indeed, Latins are white people. But the left doesn't see it like that, there's no offence to be taken if we accept what we know to be true. The UK left for example has this to say on Mexicans... Student union bans 'racist' sombrerosStudent union officials at the University of East Anglia have banned a Mexican restaurant from handing out sombreros to students, branding the marketing stunt racist.
The high-crowned straw hats had been given to students at a freshers’ fair in Norwich by staff from Pedro’s Tex Mex Cantina, a Mexican-themed restaurant in the city.
Union officials took them away from new students, according to reports, and told restaurant workers the hats breached a policy forbidding stallholders from handing out materials including “discriminatory or stereotypical imagery”.
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Chris Jarvis, the union’s campaigns and democracy officer, defended the ban. He said: “At the student union we want all members to feel safe and accepted, so at all events we try to ensure that there is no behaviour, language or imagery, which could be considered racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic or ablest.
It is unclear how the policy will affect student fancy dress parties or which other hats could be banned. www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/29/uea-student-union-bans-racist-sombrerosThe left has invented the sin of 'Cultural Appropriation' Cultural appropriation, often framed as cultural misappropriation, is sometimes portrayed as harmful and is claimed to be a violation of the collective intellectual property rights of the originating culture. Often unavoidable when multiple cultures come together, cultural appropriation can include using other cultures' traditions, food, fashion, symbols, technology, language, and cultural songs without permissionNext time you see a non westerner in a business suit eating a hamburger or using a mobile phone you, in theory, can accuse them of cultural appropriation and racism. You see, the left never ever thinks anything through... Black people cannot be racist—I repeat—cannot be racist when it comes to white people. We're bigoted and prejudiced as SHIT!!!!!!! But nah, we're not racist. theswamp.media/blacks-can-t-be-racistWell, that [black] person is a real thickie... Prejudiced - Adjective; Having or showing a dislike or distrust that is derived from prejudiceRacist - Noun; A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another. "Racist - Noun; A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another." That certainly seems to fit if Arpaio was, indeed, rounding up Mexicans off the streets and putting them in his tent-prison .. with mistreatment being the rule. since he was found guilty in a court of law, it stands to reason he probably was guilty. Doesn't it? I don't see a lot of room for argument. As far as I can see, those who go out of their way to be offended will always find something.... The transgendered star of L’Oréal Paris UK’s new “diversity” campaign has been sacked Munroe Bergdorf, who is biologically male but identifies as female, was made the makeup and hair product brand’s first ever transgendered ambassador and hailed the new “face of modern diversity” just days ago. Soon after, however, the “transgender woman of colour” violated the brand’s diversity standards, leading to the sack and the loss of a lucrative deal. In a lengthy Facebook post, the model had ranted: “Honestly I don’t have energy to talk about the racial violence of white people any more. Yes ALL white people.” www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/02/loreal-paris-fires-first-transgendered-diversity-model-attacking-violent-white-race/What a stupid prick! |
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Post by Dex on Sept 2, 2017 10:28:34 GMT -5
The GOP in Congress is pushing back and asking Trump not to drop the Dreamers. They are very concerned the action will cause a back lash from the Democrats they need to pass important legislation this fall. Watch the presidential tweets tomorrow morning for some kind of indication about what he is going to do. The President has gone from saying he'll make a decision this weekend to claiming it will be Tuesday before we'll know. The feedback from some GOP who oppose dropping the program must have caught him by surprise. The rumors about Trump and Kelly not getting along have picked up, btw. No idea if there's any connection. If Kelly goes, it will probably be maximum chaos again. Probably Bannon and Gorka will come back. I read that the reason Stephen Miller is still there is because he knows too much on Trump to risk firing him.  |
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Post by Dex on Sept 2, 2017 10:31:49 GMT -5
I'd rather Arpaio was pardoned than the scumbags, terrorists and murderers that Reagan, Clinton and others did. That doesn't make much sense, Lin. What would one thing have to do with the other one. You're talking about things that happened years ago. They could have been wrong and pardoning Arpaio could, and is, still wrong. Logic works. |
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Post by ladylinda on Sept 2, 2017 18:36:53 GMT -5
I'd rather Arpaio was pardoned than the scumbags, terrorists and murderers that Reagan, Clinton and others did. That doesn't make much sense, Lin. What would one thing have to do with the other one. You're talking about things that happened years ago. They could have been wrong and pardoning Arpaio could, and is, still wrong. Logic works. Fairness always makes sense to me. And Obama pardoned terrorists too. As for logic, I've seen precious little of it from the people who just seem to demonise everything Trump does. I'm anything but a Trump fan but IMO he got this one right. Just as Clinton, Obama, Reagan and so on got most of their pardons wrong. We'll just have to agree to disagree. |
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Post by Jessiealan on Sept 2, 2017 20:03:15 GMT -5
That doesn't make much sense, Lin. What would one thing have to do with the other one. You're talking about things that happened years ago. They could have been wrong and pardoning Arpaio could, and is, still wrong. Logic works. Fairness always makes sense to me. And Obama pardoned terrorists too. As for logic, I've seen precious little of it from the people who just seem to demonise everything Trump does. I'm anything but a Trump fan but IMO he got this one right. Just as Clinton, Obama, Reagan and so on got most of their pardons wrong. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Who are you to say, Linda? Things often seem very different, from a distance. |
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Post by mouse on Sept 3, 2017 3:53:56 GMT -5
"""In a lengthy Facebook post, the model had ranted: “Honestly I don’t have energy to talk about the racial violence of white people any more. Yes ALL white people.”"""
aw bless his little cotton socks and where does trans gender come into it ? he isn't trans gender he is just a chap who wears dresses... he hasn't had the op so he hasn't transferred to being any thing
"""“face of modern diversity”""" oh dear me no.. he is the face of the modern day confused .... as for racial violence of white people... lets take that seriously for a moment if we must talk of violence then take a look at any jail population and any area where people really do not want to live
abd if he is soooo bothered by white people .. then hop off to somme where more to you taste.. how about the Congo no whites left there... but lots of violence and see how pleased they are to meet a whinging male dressed in a dress...one things for certain you wouldn't be a stupid prick there for very long ....
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Post by beth on Sept 3, 2017 11:29:24 GMT -5
Arpaio broke the laws as an elected official.
If you're so concerned about law breakers, you should stop and consider. How important is the law? Is it "rule of law" only for one group of people and not others?
BS!
Arpaio was treated rather gently and I doubt if he would have spent time behind bars. Trump pardoned him to make brownie points with his base voters - period.
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Post by ladylinda on Sept 3, 2017 14:41:26 GMT -5
Fairness always makes sense to me. And Obama pardoned terrorists too. As for logic, I've seen precious little of it from the people who just seem to demonise everything Trump does. I'm anything but a Trump fan but IMO he got this one right. Just as Clinton, Obama, Reagan and so on got most of their pardons wrong. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Who are you to say, Linda? Things often seem very different, from a distance. Who am I to say? I'm just an ordinary human being - like you. Things certainly do often seem very different from a distance. But most people would regard murder and terrorism as more serious offences than what Arpaoi's been accused of. And if you're going to pardon murderers and terrorists then that's a MUCH stronger reason for condemnation than this minor peccadilo. For what it's worth maybe ALL Presidential pardons should have to be confirmed by Congress. Otherwise you're allowing an elective dictatorship to over-ride your legal system. And on a personal note it ought to at least make you think that when Joe and I agree on something it might actually be worth considering that we might be right. It hardly ever happens! |
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Post by Sysop3 on Sept 3, 2017 16:07:32 GMT -5
For what it's worth maybe ALL Presidential pardons should have to be confirmed by Congress. For what it's worth, I agree. |
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Post by mouse on Sept 4, 2017 3:26:12 GMT -5
lin wrote
""""But most people would regard murder and terrorism as more serious offences than what Arpaoi's been accused of."""from every thing I have read.. absolutely agree
we got news of this sheriff.. at one time.. and great numbers wanted a similar not identical but similar hard attitude to criminals over here dunno if LIN remembers that.....[our criminals constantly post ohotos of them selves and their cells having a good time and honing up their muscles] and that is not punishment
lin then remarked on agreement by herself and an other who very rarely disagree.. and some times who agrees with who is more telling than who disagrees
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