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Post by beth on Jan 17, 2011 21:52:06 GMT -5
Top 3 My picks Thomas Jefferson Abraham Lincoln Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Post by biglin on Jan 18, 2011 8:44:14 GMT -5
Franklin D Roosevelt
Theodore Roosevelt
Andrew Jackson
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Post by mouse on Jan 18, 2011 9:23:36 GMT -5
from a british perspective franklin roosevelt
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Post by Jessiealan on Jan 18, 2011 13:26:58 GMT -5
John Adams Thomas Jefferson Abraham Lincoln
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Post by iamjumbo on Jan 18, 2011 17:20:08 GMT -5
Top 3 My picks Thomas Jefferson Abraham Lincoln Franklin D. Roosevelt to you ~ if we only get three, i have to take yours
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Post by beth on Jan 20, 2011 8:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by Erasmus on Jan 20, 2011 18:46:27 GMT -5
I see here that Eisenhower is being 'rehabilitated'. I don't think he was a bad president, but I don't think he was much good either, a sort of precursor to Ford and ample match for Harold MacMillan's Never had it so good Britain sort of hoping that everything would return to the 1930s again but better. Rosa Parks and Joe MacCarthy did their opposite things - Ike told everybody that everything in the garden was coming up roses and played golf.
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Post by Jessiealan on Jan 20, 2011 19:31:52 GMT -5
Dwight Eisenhower was a likable, easy going man. I do not believe he was conservative enough for some present day Republicans to accept him as one of their own. He was a favorite of my parents.
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Post by Erasmus on Jan 20, 2011 20:09:30 GMT -5
He was the man for his times that really were fantastically better than before. The USA had the Korean War closer than WW2 and didn't want another one at home. I don't really know enough about presidents to select good ones. Had he lived longer, JFK might have been seen differently, and had he lived today, liking women and admitting them sexually instead of men would have had him reviled as a pervert. The worst, I think was Truman, who saw what Fascist militarization had done for the Axis and adopted it to invent the Cold War and drive technology and economy through a permanent war footing that makes demilitarization an economic disaster, so must create enemies somewhere and everywhere.
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Post by jaysparrow38 on Jan 20, 2011 23:37:25 GMT -5
FDR JFK Bill Clinton
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 16:27:27 GMT -5
I am frankly astonished to see the names of either Clinton or John Adams suggested.
Adams stole the first contested Presidential election and when he reluctantly had to go after failing to be re-elected he instituted the spoils system.
Clinton has so many blots on his escutcheon it would require a volume the size of an enccylopaedia to contain them all!
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Post by mouse on Jan 24, 2011 18:13:00 GMT -5
and by all acounts his escutcheon was not all volume and size either
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Post by das on Jan 24, 2011 20:30:31 GMT -5
My picks:
#1 George W Bush #2 Abe Lincoln #3 HW Bush #4 HW Bush
Last place or worst of the worst: Bill Clinton
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Post by Erasmus on Jan 24, 2011 21:16:58 GMT -5
Woodrow Wilson has to be up there somewhere but it's a bit of a contradiction because the American ethos was (for the 18th century) anti-monarchical, so places Presidents in a quandry where to be 'great' almost means defying their position as Chief Executive but not King. Monarchs are allowed to be 'Great' because they have very little in the way of government to control how they turn out. The ideal President in a way is somebody like Ford who keeps everything ticking over and plays a mainly negative role that prevents anybody or anything from getting enough control to be seen as 'great'.
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Post by beth on Jan 24, 2011 22:04:30 GMT -5
I don't think Clinton was a bad Prez. He was probably a bad husband, but then a lot of Presidents and heads of state were/are bad husbands. Should not have anything to do with a presidential ranking.
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