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Post by fretslider on Mar 8, 2017 7:44:54 GMT -5
Let's unpack that gibberish. You dpn't kniow anything about anything you are not even scientifc, science does not have mindlesss rules.My honours degree in zoology and botany say's otherwise. Science does indeed have rules, yet you refuse to recognise them with ridiculous demands to prove a negative. You're wasting my time again kronks. I've already given you evidence of a supermnatural being based on indisputable logicI fell off the chair at that one! Very funny. Based on indisputable logic? That is clearly no substitute for real evidence. You can play Schroedinger's cat any way you want. If I took you to hell and back you still would not believe it.You can't and everybody knows it. Duh. Unpack your own gibberish I don't bring any with me. You have no evidence God does not exist. Here is another joke: It is funny how atheists demand proofs for the beleifs of other when the have no proof for their own!! Rather ironic don't you think? You have no evidence God does not exist. Do you bother to think before you type? The evidence suggests not. It is funny how atheists demand proofs for the beleifs of other when the have no proof for their own!! See my comment above. Atheism, for the very last time, is an absence of belief. That is there is no belief whatsoever. Logically, one does not have to provide proof for a lack of belief, had there been a belief some evidence would be required. So, lets be quite clear Belief: Noun; An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.
Atheism: Noun; A lack of belief.I don't believe, ergo there is nothing to prove. Simple logic, kronks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 13:20:25 GMT -5
as a believer, I cannot force you concerning anything about God...you have been given a free will that I don't have the power to change. I can only warn you of your error and give you scripture plus live my life in a manner that shows the fruits of a life dedicated to Jesus, but it is up to the Holy Spirit to draw you to God and regenerate your heart. Hi Chefmate51, Believe it or not, I agree with you completely. We can preach till we are blue in the face, but as everyone has been given free will to accept or refuse. It can't be forced. It is also true that it is the Holy Spirit who leads us step by step, acceptance of God comes from the heart You agree with me only in concept not application as I've said before and will say again, Eckanker is a false religion and you are blind to the truth and there is nothing I can do to stop you.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 8, 2017 19:10:03 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, You know nothing about ECKANKAR.!!! You have to be a member in order to know. In the first place it is a bona fide religion. It is the Religion of Light and Sound. Light and Sound are the two aspects of the Holy Spirit as known in this material plane. We believe and follow the Holy Spirit and promote the unconditional love of God, which God freely gives to all Souls. in my opinion its a sect/cult/scam/con ..my opinion of Ekinkar is entire gained from your self...and I have no interests of delving any deeper its only a bona fider religion on its own say so the message of a God is not hemed in by ""only those who are memebers in order to know"" only those who are memebers and have paid their dues ...since when did ANY god require a memebership and payment ? all that any god requires are those who believe ..this is as true today as it was in all the yesterdays and the failed gods of the past ... no god requires monies its only those who exploit in the name of god who requires hard cash...and they do very nicely thankyou Hi Mouse, you seem to be obsessed with money. Who is paying you so that you can eat and clothe yourself and have a roof over your head? Every establishment needs money to pay for overheads, such as maintenance, electricity, gardeners and such like. Everybody has to work in order to live. Everything costs We who care help in the smooth running of the church. Nobody is preventing you from entering any church gratis free. If that is what you choose to do. People who are members choose to help in some way it all helps to arrange for seminars so that the public can receive the good news. We CARE.!!!
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 8, 2017 19:18:48 GMT -5
Hi Chefmate51, Believe it or not, I agree with you completely. We can preach till we are blue in the face, but as everyone has been given free will to accept or refuse. It can't be forced. It is also true that it is the Holy Spirit who leads us step by step, acceptance of God comes from the heart You agree with me only in concept not application as I've said before and will say again, Eckanker is a false religion and you are blind to the truth and there is nothing I can do to stop you. Hi Chefmate51, It is obvious to me that you have stopped seeking in this lifetime, maybe the next time things might be different and you will have a more enlightened attitude. May the Blessings Be.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 8, 2017 19:34:57 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, I am not the only one who quotes on the wrong thread, even you yourself have been guilty of this. Anyhow, If Trump can try to prevent freedom of speech, it is not beyond a reasonable doubt that others are capable of the same, afterall you are moderator of this forum apparently with power over the members. PS: it seems I have answered your post on the wrong thread, sorry Dex, Fretslider, Sysop3 and Beth. I do try my best not to make mistakes, but here I go again. what are you talking about .for crying out loud you made a mistake ..owned it after a re-read and I said no problem...that was the end of it as far as I was concerned and now your off on a rant about Trump and the prevention of freedom of speech and make an unfounded allegation against me and my integrity and all because I asked you what you meant by posting a quote of your words ..which I still have no idea what you meant by this SL wrote """I will continue to express my beliefs in my posts if they are relevant to the posts that have been sent to me, unless of course you wish to deprive me of that opportunity by refusing to accept my posts.""" Hi Mouse, I didnot receive any such post as far as I know. How could I have? I just realised when I was typing the post and I wasn't going to type it out again, so it must have been another time when I made a mistake. Surely that is no big deal, you seem to make an issue out of the least thing. IMO.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 8, 2017 19:43:59 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, I was saying sorry to those who may find it necessary to move the post when I make a mistake. I do remember that other post now that was when I misread your post. Ofcourse that is now finished and done with?
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Post by kronks on Mar 9, 2017 0:55:01 GMT -5
Unpack your own gibberish I don't bring any with me. You have no evidence God does not exist. Here is another joke: It is funny how atheists demand proofs for the beleifs of other when the have no proof for their own!! Rather ironic don't you think? what don't you understand....if some one asserts a thinking to be a fact it is up to them to prove that fact ..its not up to those who disagree..theres nothing ironic about it..its totally normal people could come up with all sorts of nonsence and claim their nonsense as fact if they didn't have to provide proof there is no beliefe system attached to those who do not think god exists..where as those who believe god exists have created an entire industries out of their believe so its in the interests of those who make the monies to ensure the believe continues ... If you say the fact is untrue you have to prove it, you can't have it one way but not the other.
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Post by kronks on Mar 9, 2017 0:57:08 GMT -5
Unpack your own gibberish I don't bring any with me. You have no evidence God does not exist. Here is another joke: It is funny how atheists demand proofs for the beleifs of other when the have no proof for their own!! Rather ironic don't you think? You have no evidence God does not exist. Do you bother to think before you type? The evidence suggests not. It is funny how atheists demand proofs for the beleifs of other when the have no proof for their own!! See my comment above. Atheism, for the very last time, is an absence of belief. That is there is no belief whatsoever. Logically, one does not have to provide proof for a lack of belief, had there been a belief some evidence would be required. So, lets be quite clear Belief: Noun; An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.
Atheism: Noun; A lack of belief.I don't believe, ergo there is nothing to prove. Simple logic, kronks. Atheism is a belief this no God. Theism is lack of a belief in atheism. Sorted!!!
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Post by mouse on Mar 9, 2017 3:39:17 GMT -5
in my opinion its a sect/cult/scam/con ..my opinion of Ekinkar is entire gained from your self...and I have no interests of delving any deeper its only a bona fider religion on its own say so the message of a God is not hemed in by ""only those who are memebers in order to know"" only those who are memebers and have paid their dues ...since when did ANY god require a memebership and payment ? all that any god requires are those who believe ..this is as true today as it was in all the yesterdays and the failed gods of the past ... no god requires monies its only those who exploit in the name of god who requires hard cash...and they do very nicely thankyou Hi Mouse, you seem to be obsessed with money. Who is paying you so that you can eat and clothe yourself and have a roof over your head? Every establishment needs money to pay for overheads, such as maintenance, electricity, gardeners and such like. Everybody has to work in order to live. Everything costs We who care help in the smooth running of the church. Nobody is preventing you from entering any church gratis free. If that is what you choose to do. People who are members choose to help in some way it all helps to arrange for seminars so that the public can receive the good news. We CARE.!!! """"the message of a God is not hemed in by ""only those who are memebers in order to know"" only those who are memebers and have paid their dues ...since when did ANY god require a memebership and payment ? all that any god requires are those who believe ..this is as true today as it was in all the yesterdays and the failed gods of the past ... no god requires monies its only those who exploit in the name of god who requires hard cash...and they do very nicely thankyou"""" btw..no one pays me as I am not employed.but I manage to eat clothe and have a roof over my head
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Post by mouse on Mar 9, 2017 3:44:47 GMT -5
what don't you understand....if some one asserts a thinking to be a fact it is up to them to prove that fact ..its not up to those who disagree..theres nothing ironic about it..its totally normal people could come up with all sorts of nonsence and claim their nonsense as fact if they didn't have to provide proof there is no beliefe system attached to those who do not think god exists..where as those who believe god exists have created an entire industries out of their believe so its in the interests of those who make the monies to ensure the believe continues ... If you say the fact is untrue you have to prove it, you can't have it one way but not the other. Kronks...there has to be FACT in the first place....and in this case there isn't..theres a BELIEFE but not a cold hard fact ...
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Post by mouse on Mar 9, 2017 4:06:38 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, I was saying sorry to those who may find it necessary to move the post when I make a mistake. I do remember that other post now that was when I misread your post. Ofcourse that is now finished and done with? [/quote]""""Surely that is no big deal, you seem to make an issue out of the least thing. IMO.[/quote]"" actually it is a BIG deal to write that posts would be removed..its a big deal to imply abuse by any member of this forum...and to wish to rectify such false allegations is hardly making an issue of the LEAST thing.. the matter HAD to be dealt with...and now HAS been dealt with and as far as I am concerned is now finished over and done with here is exactly what you wrote """and now your off on a rant about Trump and the prevention of freedom of speech and make an unfounded allegation against me and my integrity and all because I asked you what you meant by posting a quote of your words ..which I still have no idea what you meant by this SL wrote """I will continue to express my beliefs in my posts if they are relevant to the posts that have been sent to me, unless of course you wish to deprive me of that opportunity by refusing to accept my posts.""" followed by this """ Anyhow, If Trump can try to prevent freedom of speech, it is not beyond a reasonable doubt that others are capable of the same, afterall you are moderator of this forum apparently with power over the members"""
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Post by fretslider on Mar 9, 2017 6:46:16 GMT -5
You have no evidence God does not exist. Do you bother to think before you type? The evidence suggests not. It is funny how atheists demand proofs for the beleifs of other when the have no proof for their own!! See my comment above. Atheism, for the very last time, is an absence of belief. That is there is no belief whatsoever. Logically, one does not have to provide proof for a lack of belief, had there been a belief some evidence would be required. So, lets be quite clear Belief: Noun; An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.
Atheism: Noun; A lack of belief.I don't believe, ergo there is nothing to prove. Simple logic, kronks. Atheism is a belief this no God. Theism is lack of a belief in atheism. Sorted!!! Atheism is a lack of belief as you very well know; you even deny the dictionary definition of the word. Impressive, kronks. The null hypothesis - there is no god. The alternative hypothesis - there is a god or gods Now for the factual evidence bit. Do we have anything, any evidence at all, to support the existence of a god or gods? No we don't. Ergo there is nothing to believe in. An absence or lack of faith is quite justified, given the lack of evidence.
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 9, 2017 6:50:23 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Are you telling me, that as moderator you have no power over what happens on this forum? I made a mistake when I misread one of your posts. I apologised, you accepted the apology, so it is finished and done with.
I made another mistake when I was explaining what I meant about mentioning Trump when we were on the thread Does God Exist so I said sorry to the people who are responsible for moving posts. If that was what they had to do. In mentioning Trump I was merely having a bit of a joke. It was said tongue in cheek, I hope that clears the air.
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Post by fretslider on Mar 9, 2017 6:51:11 GMT -5
what don't you understand....if some one asserts a thinking to be a fact it is up to them to prove that fact ..its not up to those who disagree..theres nothing ironic about it..its totally normal people could come up with all sorts of nonsence and claim their nonsense as fact if they didn't have to provide proof there is no beliefe system attached to those who do not think god exists..where as those who believe god exists have created an entire industries out of their believe so its in the interests of those who make the monies to ensure the believe continues ... If you say the fact is untrue you have to prove it, you can't have it one way but not the other. If you are stating something as fact and true, where's the evidence to back it up?
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Mar 9, 2017 7:28:38 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, There is some Intelligence showing me things that I have no way of arranging myself. A shining entity appears in my lounge room, I visit various dimensions. I am transported to parts of this world that I have never been to physically. I have past life experiences. I see into the future. I for one am receiving proof that there is an Intelligence, whom I have decided to call God, because this entity has been spoken of through the ages, therefore,I am taking it as being the same entity.
It is proof to me that God exists, but because it is individual proof there is no way I could prove it to anyone. There are thousands of people through the ages who have had similar experiences and it is still happening to individuals today, who have earned the right to have these things happen.
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