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Post by kronks on Jun 20, 2020 16:54:56 GMT -5
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Post by mouse on Jun 21, 2020 3:36:38 GMT -5
the last I heard the stabber was lybian,,, and it was being pu6 out as a terrorst killing... haven't heard whether the victims were white or black.... very convienient to have a terrorist to hand to take the heat,,,,think of the reprocussions had it been white victims .. or even worse a white has done for several black victims … strange times we live in...…;; ind I think we are so used to yoofs stabbing its not shocking any more
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Post by kronks on Jun 21, 2020 17:01:38 GMT -5
The victims are all white I think, one is a teacher who supports LGBT rights and may well be gay himself, the LGBT movement support BLM and i guess that is why he was in the park.
Seems the brother of the killer hated england which he said was racist, that did not stop the killer seeeking asylum here!
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Post by fretslider on Jun 23, 2020 6:12:45 GMT -5
The victims are all white I think, one is a teacher who supports LGBT rights and may well be gay himself, the LGBT movement support BLM and i guess that is why he was in the park. Seems the brother of the killer hated england which he said was racist, that did not stop the killer seeeking asylum here! Kill a black man and all hell breaks loose. Kill children at a pop concert and we're told don't look back in anger. This excuse for a human being is getting the usual 'mental illness' get out. One of the victims was an American. I expect they won't be looking back in anger, either. |
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Post by mouse on Jun 23, 2020 6:59:09 GMT -5
you couldn't make any of this up... an imports who loves whiskey and cannabis .. I assume he didn't work.....but was part of the white mans burden... runs amok and murders and stabs at will.... great......he was in prison why was he let out early and why was he not deported[sod his ooman rights]and yet again the police were aware of him.. and let him roam at will and the results is death... andlaughably those killed were sympathetic to BLM the lefty org that wants no police and no capitalist ……. but fails to say what it actually does want... personally I think money would soooth their angst,, as principles don't appear to be on the agenda...….
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Post by toby1 on Jun 26, 2020 13:59:35 GMT -5
More stabbed in a Glasgow Hotel including a Policeman who is gravely ill, the good news is the stabber was shot dead.
The Hotel was being used to house asylum seekers, how is it possible that asylum seekers are housed in central Glasgow ?
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Post by mouse on Jun 27, 2020 3:40:05 GMT -5
Toby i have no idea why criminals are housed in central Glasgow... but one thing is clear.. apart from wets and fogknitters every one is sick and tired of the antics of these people...and as for the BLM.. words fail
the campain to defund the BBC seems to be gathering speed....especially as they anounced they are abut to spend 100 million on becomming more diverse.... and yet are no longer providing a service for over 75s,,,,, so us all fun and games,, and likely to get more so
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Post by fretslider on Jun 27, 2020 6:30:38 GMT -5
Toby i have no idea why criminals are housed in central Glasgow... but one thing is clear.. apart from wets and fogknitters every one is sick and tired of the antics of these people...and as for the BLM.. words fail the campain to defund the BBC seems to be gathering speed....especially as they anounced they are abut to spend 100 million on becomming more diverse.... and yet are no longer providing a service for over 75s,,,,, so us all fun and games,, and likely to get more so Why are there migrants in Scotland? Inward migration 'needed to boost Scotland's population'
The Scottish government has called for immigration powers to be devolved in a bid to safeguard public services.www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-50124333“It is increasingly obvious that Scotland needs our own powers over migration and the means to grow our population.leftfootforward.org/2019/07/scotland-needs-more-immigrants-says-snp/No mention of the fact that the ~5 million Scots already get far more per capita than any other nation, and England - paying for it - is at the bottom. Then, there is the not so small matter of the Scottish deficit. Scotland's deficit seven times higher than UK as a whole last year
Scotland ran a deficit seven times higher than the UK as a whole last year, despite again cutting its overspend on public services.
Scotland’s notional deficit stood at £12.6bn or 7% of GDP, including North Sea oil revenues, compared with the UK’s total £23.5bn deficit, which includes Scotland’s figure. The UK deficit is equivalent to 1.1% of its GDP.www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/21/scotland-2018-deficit-higher-than-uk-as-a-whole-last-yearTheir brand of socialism is getting expensive, and now they want us to pay for their migrants. I say give them independence and let them get on with it. |
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Post by toby1 on Jun 28, 2020 13:14:12 GMT -5
""I say give them independence and let them get on with it."" I second that !
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Post by men an tol on Jun 30, 2020 15:19:49 GMT -5
""I say give them independence and let them get on with it."" I second that ! While the details are different, we (The United States) also have some groups that apparently do not believe that peaceful negotiation and nonviolent Protest are the way to do things. Rather they apparently believe that using force to take over areas and have such areas function outside of existing law, is the way to accomplish their goals. Even having well defined goals seems to be more than they can handle. At the same time, the Governors in the States where this is occurring do not seem to understand that in part, their responsibilities is the maintaining of existing laws and a peaceful environment. Those who are not part of these violent demonstrations, but live and/or work in those areas, have no means of protection by the State Government and are the first line victims. It is time and passed to bring this lawlessness to an end. The Governors of the States where this is occurring have the means to bring these lawless acts to an end and to do so within a matter of an hour or two. Each has at the Governors control, a National Guard which can close down the illegal acts of those who are causing the violence. This is not the first time such illegal acts have occurred within the United States and it has been the National Guard who has restored law and order. Violence begets violence. We have seen such violence extend to the destructive acts on our history, with the acts on historic statues. These who are causing these acts are no more than ignorant terrorists, and they should be treated as such by being arrested and receiving long prison sentences. If that were done, these illegal acts would stay with them the rest of their lives. |
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Post by fretslider on Jul 1, 2020 5:46:32 GMT -5
""I say give them independence and let them get on with it."" I second that ! While the details are different, we (The United States) also have some groups that apparently do not believe that peaceful negotiation and nonviolent Protest are the way to do things. Rather they apparently believe that using force to take over areas and have such areas function outside of existing law, is the way to accomplish their goals. Even having well defined goals seems to be more than they can handle. At the same time, the Governors in the States where this is occurring do not seem to understand that in part, their responsibilities is the maintaining of existing laws and a peaceful environment. Those who are not part of these violent demonstrations, but live and/or work in those areas, have no means of protection by the State Government and are the first line victims. It is time and passed to bring this lawlessness to an end. The Governors of the States where this is occurring have the means to bring these lawless acts to an end and to do so within a matter of an hour or two. Each has at the Governors control, a National Guard which can close down the illegal acts of those who are causing the violence. This is not the first time such illegal acts have occurred within the United States and it has been the National Guard who has restored law and order. Violence begets violence. We have seen such violence extend to the destructive acts on our history, with the acts on historic statues. These who are causing these acts are no more than ignorant terrorists, and they should be treated as such by being arrested and receiving long prison sentences. If that were done, these illegal acts would stay with them the rest of their lives. The details could not be more different, men an tol. They have tried time and again to impose the American concept of white privilege onto the British consciousness and failed. Because our histories are very different. It's all about - inevitably enough - bringing down capitalism. In England the peasants and their children were wage slave labour... The Poor Law of 1601 in England assigned responsibility for the poor to parishes, which later built workhouses to employ paupers and the indigent at profitable work. It proved difficult to employ them on a profitable basis, however, and during the 18th century workhouses tended to degenerate into mixed receptacles where every type of pauper, whether needy or criminal, young or old, infirm, healthy, or insane, was dumped. These workhouses were difficult to distinguish from houses of correction. According to prevailing social conditions, their inmates might be let out to contractors or kept idle to prevent competition on the labour market.www.britannica.com/topic/workhouseThe Elizabethans worked out that private enterprise was the future. We have never had so few infirm or poor as we do today - and that goes for a lot of black people in England. Few care to remember that black people came here of their own free will. They've been privileged if anyone has. |
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Post by men an tol on Jul 19, 2020 16:30:22 GMT -5
Yes, the stories of our economic evolutions are quite different, as in the early years the U.S. economic culture (in the South) was built on a foundation of slavery. While in the North of America and Europe there was no connection to Slavery. Or was there?
A case could be made that without the Islamic attacking and capturing populations in the interior of Africa and turning them into slaves for sale on the African Coast there would have been no foundation for the slave trade. And initially, without the availability of European shipping, such slaves would never have made it to the Americas. It is also true that parts of the Americas developed their economies based on production of those slaves is a result of bringing those slaves to the Americas. It is also true that in part, that American slave based, economy relied on sales to Europe of what it produced. That is, if Europe had refused any products resulting from a slave based economy, that slave system would have fallen apart overnight, and have been replaced by paid labor.
Even so, today’s demonstrations have nothing to do with such a reality, instead it is about demonstrating for the sake of demonstrating. Today in America anyone can change their economic condition. Not for free, but with effort anyone can increase their economic worth. With effort, anyone can change their position in society. But some want to make such changes by the government stepping in and making them reach their goals, without effort. As a child throwing a tantrum, these so called demonstrators will yell and scream, and destroy all around them if they do not get their way. And most do not have any idea of what it is they want. They are simply destroyers.
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Post by fretslider on Jul 20, 2020 6:31:05 GMT -5
Yes, the stories of our economic evolutions are quite different, as in the early years the U.S. economic culture (in the South) was built on a foundation of slavery. While in the North of America and Europe there was no connection to Slavery. Or was there? A case could be made that without the Islamic attacking and capturing populations in the interior of Africa and turning them into slaves for sale on the African Coast there would have been no foundation for the slave trade. And initially, without the availability of European shipping, such slaves would never have made it to the Americas. It is also true that parts of the Americas developed their economies based on production of those slaves is a result of bringing those slaves to the Americas. It is also true that in part, that American slave based, economy relied on sales to Europe of what it produced. That is, if Europe had refused any products resulting from a slave based economy, that slave system would have fallen apart overnight, and have been replaced by paid labor. Even so, today’s demonstrations have nothing to do with such a reality, instead it is about demonstrating for the sake of demonstrating. Today in America anyone can change their economic condition. Not for free, but with effort anyone can increase their economic worth. With effort, anyone can change their position in society. But some want to make such changes by the government stepping in and making them reach their goals, without effort. As a child throwing a tantrum, these so called demonstrators will yell and scream, and destroy all around them if they do not get their way. And most do not have any idea of what it is they want. They are simply destroyers. It has nothing to do with justice and everything to do with bringing western civilisation - specifically, capitalism - down. The English can claim to be the first to outlaw slavery and our navy patrolled the high seas policing that. But this is an inconvenient fact and it gets in the way of bashing whitey. But then, these people have no [historical] clue. In the early 18th century when the American colonies were establishing themselves we transported our convicts - even petty theft of a loaf of bread could be punished by death - people were kidnapped off the streets and sold into slavery. Only when they ran out of white slaves did they diversify and attack the French and Portuguese trades. Spain was a very large customer of that trade. The Europeans would deal with tribes on the Gold and Ivory Coast who in turn dealt with the tribes inland, who sold their fellow Africans as slaves. The South West of England was frequently raided by islamic Corsairs and people were carried off into slavery in the middle east and Africa. Slavery Today The Workhouse hasn't gone away, the Asian (Pakistani) community were caught in a wage-slave scandal, but these slave-drivers weren't white and over 200 years old... links to Leicester 'slave' factory revealedwww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8511719/Boohoo-founders-links-Leicester-slave-factory-revealed.htmlBLM have said absolutely nothing. Isn't that curious. |
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Post by men an tol on Jul 25, 2020 15:57:19 GMT -5
Yes, the stories of our economic evolutions are quite different, as in the early years the U.S. economic culture (in the South) was built on a foundation of slavery. While in the North of America and Europe there was no connection to Slavery. Or was there? A case could be made that without the Islamic attacking and capturing populations in the interior of Africa and turning them into slaves for sale on the African Coast there would have been no foundation for the slave trade. And initially, without the availability of European shipping, such slaves would never have made it to the Americas. It is also true that parts of the Americas developed their economies based on production of those slaves is a result of bringing those slaves to the Americas. It is also true that in part, that American slave based, economy relied on sales to Europe of what it produced. That is, if Europe had refused any products resulting from a slave based economy, that slave system would have fallen apart overnight, and have been replaced by paid labor. Even so, today’s demonstrations have nothing to do with such a reality, instead it is about demonstrating for the sake of demonstrating. Today in America anyone can change their economic condition. Not for free, but with effort anyone can increase their economic worth. With effort, anyone can change their position in society. But some want to make such changes by the government stepping in and making them reach their goals, without effort. As a child throwing a tantrum, these so called demonstrators will yell and scream, and destroy all around them if they do not get their way. And most do not have any idea of what it is they want. They are simply destroyers. It has nothing to do with justice and everything to do with bringing western civilisation - specifically, capitalism - down. The English can claim to be the first to outlaw slavery and our navy patrolled the high seas policing that. But this is an inconvenient fact and it gets in the way of bashing whitey. But then, these people have no [historical] clue. In the early 18th century when the American colonies were establishing themselves we transported our convicts - even petty theft of a loaf of bread could be punished by death - people were kidnapped off the streets and sold into slavery. Only when they ran out of white slaves did they diversify and attack the French and Portuguese trades. Spain was a very large customer of that trade. The Europeans would deal with tribes on the Gold and Ivory Coast who in turn dealt with the tribes inland, who sold their fellow Africans as slaves. The South West of England was frequently raided by islamic Corsairs and people were carried off into slavery in the middle east and Africa. Slavery Today The Workhouse hasn't gone away, the Asian (Pakistani) community were caught in a wage-slave scandal, but these slave-drivers weren't white and over 200 years old... links to Leicester 'slave' factory revealedwww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8511719/Boohoo-founders-links-Leicester-slave-factory-revealed.htmlBLM have said absolutely nothing. Isn't that curious. |
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Post by men an tol on Jul 25, 2020 15:59:08 GMT -5
Most people today do not want to ‘know’ that slavery is still alive and working full steam.
There are other forms of living that are not generally considered slave activities. Those cultures which have wide differences of living activities with no opportunity to improve one’s place in society. Even some societies where people do have the opportunity to improve their lot in life, it is difficult with few (if any) opportunities.
Certainly, life today (in most places) is far better than 200 or more years ago, but it is still (for most people) nearly impossible to improve their lot in life. In those countries where it is possible to change one’s lot in life, the realities in other countries is distant and not recognized.
However, we should keep in mind that, a major worldwide economic upheaval and we could all be right back in those times and ways.
As to BLM, in my opinion they are little more than a political organization more concerned with gaining power that accomplishing anything else.
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