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Post by beth on Nov 21, 2017 7:38:00 GMT -5
Apparently (according to a.m. news) Trump has come out in favor of Roy Moore - teen groper or not. Reason? The GOP desperately needs another vote in the Senate for passing the tax legislation. Another creep must not matter as much as control of the Senate.
I agree with you somewhat, mouse. A pat on the bottom has been acceptable, although not comfortable, male behavior for a long time. However, fondling a young teen is much worse. The women who have stepped forward have been the girls who said "no". Makes us wonder about what happened with the girls who said "okay".
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Post by mouse on Nov 21, 2017 8:11:50 GMT -5
Apparently (according to a.m. news) Trump has come out in favor of Roy Moore - teen groper or not. Reason? The GOP desperately needs another vote in the Senate for passing the tax legislation. Another creep must not matter as much as control of the Senate. I agree with you somewhat, mouse. A pat on the bottom has been acceptable, although not comfortable, male behavior for a long time. However, fondling a young teen is much worse. The women who have stepped forward have been the girls who said "no". Makes us wonder about what happened with the girls who said "okay". I think we have an idea of what happened to those who said yes... some learned to regret the hard way.... as the many memoirs of Hollywood show and drifted out of sight many times a druggie or alcoholic.. I guess it all depends one who they said yes too and how much they were used/abused.. and others like Monroe..Kelly and Stanwick to name but three made hay while the sun shone as it were a dirty business and add drugs and drink into the mix of sexual licence .. very nasty
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Post by josephdphillips on Nov 21, 2017 9:52:06 GMT -5
firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values This is hopelessly subjective, which was my point.
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Post by Jessiealan on Nov 21, 2017 10:01:09 GMT -5
The accusers have now added Charlie Rose and Oliver Stone to the list.
One of the actors (from Entourage, I can't remember his name) cried foul and took a Polygraph from a non-involved company. He passed the test totally and completely with no room for doubt. Perhaps Roy Moore would step up and do the same?
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Post by Jessiealan on Nov 21, 2017 10:07:08 GMT -5
firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values This is hopelessly subjective, which was my point. That was Merriam Webster. What is your definition (of Integrity) and the source?
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Post by josephdphillips on Nov 21, 2017 10:31:51 GMT -5
What is your definition (of Integrity) and the source? What is and isn't integrity is up to the individual. That is a tautology.
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Post by mouse on Nov 21, 2017 11:32:28 GMT -5
What is your definition (of Integrity) and the source? What is and isn't integrity is up to the individual. That is a tautology. no its not up to the individual.. its only up to the individual to act within the lines of integrity integrity is not a moveable feast.. like honesty it either is or isn't
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Post by mouse on Nov 21, 2017 11:38:53 GMT -5
The accusers have now added Charlie Rose and Oliver Stone to the list. One of the actors (from Entourage, I can't remember his name) cried foul and took a Polygraph from a non-involved company. He passed the test totally and completely with no room for doubt. Perhaps Roy Moore would step up and do the same? where ever you get men who are attractive.. have money or have some sort of power or sleb.. then there you will find abuses whether its tax avoidant.. expence accounts or women ... the only thing that needs to alter is their aknowledge ment of the word no...not to abuse their status what ever it may be and not make women who say no victims one way or another and women also need to buck their ideas up and stop saying yes when they know inside they do not fancy these men.. because the more women say yes the more arrogant males think they have an entitlement
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Post by annaj26 on Nov 21, 2017 13:05:48 GMT -5
The accusers have now added Charlie Rose and Oliver Stone to the list. One of the actors (from Entourage, I can't remember his name) cried foul and took a Polygraph from a non-involved company. He passed the test totally and completely with no room for doubt. Perhaps Roy Moore would step up and do the same? where ever you get men who are attractive.. have money or have some sort of power or sleb.. then there you will find abuses whether its tax avoidant.. expence accounts or women ... the only thing that needs to alter is their aknowledge ment of the word no...not to abuse their status what ever it may be and not make women who say no victims one way or another and women also need to buck their ideas up and stop saying yes when they know inside they do not fancy these men.. because the more women say yes the more arrogant males think they have an entitlement Most of these men are not particularly attractive. In fact Harvey Weinstein and Roy Moore are very unattractive.
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Post by beth on Nov 21, 2017 19:28:21 GMT -5
where ever you get men who are attractive.. have money or have some sort of power or sleb.. then there you will find abuses whether its tax avoidant.. expence accounts or women ... the only thing that needs to alter is their aknowledge ment of the word no...not to abuse their status what ever it may be and not make women who say no victims one way or another and women also need to buck their ideas up and stop saying yes when they know inside they do not fancy these men.. because the more women say yes the more arrogant males think they have an entitlement Most of these men are not particularly attractive. In fact Harvey Weinstein and Roy Moore are very unattractive. Keep an eye out this week and next. The GOP is going to shuffle Roy Moore in if at all possible. Bannon has been working on Trump (or so I hear) to push for Moore in the Senate. Moore will take the most extreme approaches and wreck the most havoc. That's what Bannon wants. He could push the establishment Republicans into working with the opposition. Might be interesting but rather hard on the country. JMO
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Post by Sysop3 on Nov 21, 2017 21:03:27 GMT -5
Don't count Roy Moore safe just yet. This appears to be new tonight, courtesy of MSNBC and Raw Story.
A Alabama ex-cop says she was tasked with keeping Roy Moore away from cheerleaders at high school games retired Alabama police officer told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday that she had to keep an eye on Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore in the 1980s at local high school football games because he would regularly harass the team’s teenage cheerleaders. Faye Gary, who for 37 years was an officer at the Gadsden Police Department, explained to Mitchell that Moore’s reputation for pursuing underage girls was widely known throughout the community. “We were also told to watch him at the ballgames, and make sure that he didn’t, you know, hang around with the cheerleaders,” said Gary. Gary also said she learned that Moore had been barred from entering the local shopping mall because he had been “harassing” young women who worked there. Moore faces multiple allegations that he inappropriately pursued teenage girls when he was in his 30s, including allegations from two women that Moore tried to force them to have sexual contact with him when they were both under the age of consent. www.rawstory.com/2017/11/alabama-ex-cop-says-she-was-tasked-with-keeping-roy-moore-away-from-cheerleaders-at-high-school-games/
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Post by beth on Nov 22, 2017 1:58:28 GMT -5
Don't count Roy Moore safe just yet. This appears to be new tonight, courtesy of MSNBC and Raw Story.
A Alabama ex-cop says she was tasked with keeping Roy Moore away from cheerleaders at high school games retired Alabama police officer told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday that she had to keep an eye on Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore in the 1980s at local high school football games because he would regularly harass the team’s teenage cheerleaders. Faye Gary, who for 37 years was an officer at the Gadsden Police Department, explained to Mitchell that Moore’s reputation for pursuing underage girls was widely known throughout the community. “We were also told to watch him at the ballgames, and make sure that he didn’t, you know, hang around with the cheerleaders,” said Gary. Gary also said she learned that Moore had been barred from entering the local shopping mall because he had been “harassing” young women who worked there. Moore faces multiple allegations that he inappropriately pursued teenage girls when he was in his 30s, including allegations from two women that Moore tried to force them to have sexual contact with him when they were both under the age of consent. www.rawstory.com/2017/11/alabama-ex-cop-says-she-was-tasked-with-keeping-roy-moore-away-from-cheerleaders-at-high-school-games/ Good grief! I saw something earlier about Roy liking 'em young because they were pure and innocent. This was quoted from someone who was taking up for him.
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Post by mouse on Nov 22, 2017 4:30:42 GMT -5
where ever you get men who are attractive.. have money or have some sort of power or sleb.. then there you will find abuses whether its tax avoidant.. expence accounts or women ... the only thing that needs to alter is their aknowledge ment of the word no...not to abuse their status what ever it may be and not make women who say no victims one way or another and women also need to buck their ideas up and stop saying yes when they know inside they do not fancy these men.. because the more women say yes the more arrogant males think they have an entitlement Most of these men are not particularly attractive. In fact Harvey Weinstein and Roy Moore are very unattractive. I said are.. attractive have money or power or slebslobblob .. agree he is very unatteractive now real sleb-slob-blob.. but when younger he was attractive in a dark rough sort of way.. but most of these men had at least one of the things going for them... and that is part of the problem...if they can only pull by by intimidation or force then they have lost and pretence they ever had ....desperate little men well past their sell by date
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Post by mouse on Nov 22, 2017 4:40:49 GMT -5
Don't count Roy Moore safe just yet. This appears to be new tonight, courtesy of MSNBC and Raw Story.
A Alabama ex-cop says she was tasked with keeping Roy Moore away from cheerleaders at high school games retired Alabama police officer told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell on Tuesday that she had to keep an eye on Alabama Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore in the 1980s at local high school football games because he would regularly harass the team’s teenage cheerleaders. Faye Gary, who for 37 years was an officer at the Gadsden Police Department, explained to Mitchell that Moore’s reputation for pursuing underage girls was widely known throughout the community. “We were also told to watch him at the ballgames, and make sure that he didn’t, you know, hang around with the cheerleaders,” said Gary. Gary also said she learned that Moore had been barred from entering the local shopping mall because he had been “harassing” young women who worked there. Moore faces multiple allegations that he inappropriately pursued teenage girls when he was in his 30s, including allegations from two women that Moore tried to force them to have sexual contact with him when they were both under the age of consent. www.rawstory.com/2017/11/alabama-ex-cop-says-she-was-tasked-with-keeping-roy-moore-away-from-cheerleaders-at-high-school-games/ """"Gary also said she learned that Moore had been barred from entering the local shopping mall because he had been “harassing” young women who worked there. Moore faces multiple allegations that he inappropriately pursued teenage girls when he was in his 30s, including allegations from two women that Moore tried to force them to have sexual contact with him when they were both under the age of consent.""" so why wasn't he charged .. why was he allowed to get away with it?.. if you are so aware a man is a danger that he is barred from a shopping area.. this is the same the world over.. these people are known about but those with power do nothing ? we have the same here UK .. the relevant people know yet do nothing and its a disgrace ...
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Post by fretslider on Nov 22, 2017 7:37:27 GMT -5
These are funny times. Watch out for the hypocrites.... John Prescott was Tony Blair's deputy Prime Minister or two Jags (jaguar cars) as we called him. ON 5 November John Prescott devoted his Sunday Mirror column to “How I’d sort MPs sex pest scandal”.
Prezza noted that “for 40 years as an MP, I saw the heavy drinking culture… Late-night sessions and bars created the toxic environment for harassment to flourish.” He added: “There remains a conflict that discourages staff members from making complaints against their bosses… People like Bex [Bailey] shouldn’t feel the need to suffer in silence.”
When it emerged days later that Prescott’s son – and sometime ghostwriter of his Mirror column – David Prescott had been suspended from his job in Jeremy Corbyn’s office, Prezza Snr’s only comment was to point out that he had written the sex column all by himself. Which makes it only right and proper to recall a few incidents from Lord Prescott’s own past.
Office door open Tracey Temple, a senior civil servant who worked for him when he was deputy prime minister, said he kicked off their two-year affair at an office party where he “lifted up my dress jokingly to see my stockings” and spent the evening whispering “what he would like to do” to her. She said they went on to regularly have sexual encounters during the working day, often with his office door open and other staff working just feet away.
Labour party press officer Tricia McDaid then came forward to claim that at their first meeting Prescott “started to kiss me. He pulled my dress out, looked down my top and said, ‘What have you got on under there?’” When she started working for the party, McDaid said Prescott’s attempts to grope her were so frequent she took to wearing trousers in an attempt to avoid them. As for that “toxic environment”, McDaid said Prescott “used to get really drunk on whisky and would say he had a dossier about people in the Labour party sleeping with one another”.
Prescott told the Sunday Times in 2006 that McDaid’s allegations were “completely and utterly untrue” – which is at least a more gallant denial than he offered after Linda McDougall, wife of fellow Labour MP Austin Mitchell, claimed “he pushed me quite forcefully against the wall and put his hand up my skirt” when visiting their house. Prescott told a Telegraph journalist: “Have you seen his wife? Built like a bloody barn door. If I threw her against the wall, the fucking house would fall down.”
He also pointed out that the alleged incident was “bloody 30 years ago” and claimed McDougall had made it up “with all this thing about sex coming out”. Just the sort of man we need advice from on how to clean up politicswww.private-eye.co.uk/hp-sauce
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