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Post by fretslider on May 20, 2017 8:30:48 GMT -5
I detect the smell of burning martyr.... I thought it was illegal to burn martyers...in order to protect the climate ? any way stakes and burning are so yesterday.... the preffered method of some of the believers seems to be throat cutting these days When all is lost claim victimhood anyway you can. |
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Post by fretslider on May 20, 2017 8:32:38 GMT -5
I detect the smell of burning martyr.... Hi Fretslider, It seems you are hell bent on displaying your witty side of late, are you competing with Kronks? That's very funny, I like that. Competing with kronks? A glass of water has a higher IQ |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 20, 2017 8:33:54 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, When Fretslider says that he smells a burning martyr, what do you think that is? And he has put forward other such remarks. You must be skimming over them. That's NOT an attack, Lassie, it's a little bit of sarcasm. When Fret "attacks" you don't have to wonder - he makes it clear. Don't be so touchy. Hi Dex, I know, and that is how I am taking it. I even asked him if he was trying to compete with Kronks with his witty replied. Mouse has chosen to make an issue out of it. All is well.!!! |
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Post by fretslider on May 20, 2017 8:35:26 GMT -5
Would you care to explain that allegation, kronks? Do we have our very first martyr to the cause? Well first you call her posts mind game and then tell here to give it a rest ie stop posting here thought which you refer to as mind games. As I said to SL... ...what do you think: give us a rest from these mind games means?
Stop posting.!!!I don't know what your mother tongue is, but mind games are... The three forms of competitive human behaviours. In this case the largely conscious struggle for psychological one-upmanship, often employing passive–aggressive behaviour to specifically demoralise or dis-empower the thinking subject. 'I have these experiences... you must believe... I know, and you don't' etc. How that translates into censorship or a command to stop posting, I'll leave you to explain; if you can. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 20, 2017 8:43:34 GMT -5
I thought it was illegal to burn martyers...in order to protect the climate ? any way stakes and burning are so yesterday.... the preffered method of some of the believers seems to be throat cutting these days When all is lost claim victimhood anyway you can. Hi Fretslider, one thing that a member of ECKANKAR learns is: that there are no victims in this world. We are all responsible for the troubles that beset us, as we created them ourselves by our actions in past lives. |
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Post by fretslider on May 20, 2017 8:46:17 GMT -5
When all is lost claim victimhood anyway you can. Hi Fretslider, one thing that a member of ECKANKAR learns is: that there are no victims in this world. We are all responsible for the troubles that beset us, as we created them ourselves by our actions in past lives. Then you aren't really a victim of censorship at all, you just thought you experienced that. Makes sense of a sort, I suppose. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 20, 2017 8:52:33 GMT -5
Well first you call her posts mind game and then tell here to give it a rest ie stop posting here thought which you refer to as mind games. As I said to SL... ...what do you think: give us a rest from these mind games means?
Stop posting.!!!I don't know what your mother tongue is, but mind games are... The three forms of competitive human behaviours. In this case the largely conscious struggle for psychological one-upmanship, often employing passive–aggressive behaviour to specifically demoralise or dis-empower the thinking subject. 'I have these experiences... you must believe... I know, and you don't' etc. How that translates into censorship or a command to stop posting, I'll leave you to explain; if you can. Hi Fretslider. You are labeling my posts as being mind games. I don't..!!! And you are asking me to cease from that, which means in my book, thst I have to stop posting, that is what it amounts to. |
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Post by fretslider on May 20, 2017 8:55:54 GMT -5
As I said to SL... ...what do you think: give us a rest from these mind games means?
Stop posting.!!!I don't know what your mother tongue is, but mind games are... The three forms of competitive human behaviours. In this case the largely conscious struggle for psychological one-upmanship, often employing passive–aggressive behaviour to specifically demoralise or dis-empower the thinking subject. 'I have these experiences... you must believe... I know, and you don't' etc. How that translates into censorship or a command to stop posting, I'll leave you to explain; if you can. Hi Fretslider. You are labeling my posts as being mind games. I don't..!!! And you are asking me to cease from that, which means in my book, thst I have to stop posting, that is what it amounts to. If you choose to interpret it that way, that's entirely up to you. It speaks volumes. |
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Post by Scottish Lassie on May 20, 2017 9:08:04 GMT -5
Hi Fretslider, one thing that a member of ECKANKAR learns is: that there are no victims in this world. We are all responsible for the troubles that beset us, as we created them ourselves by our actions in past lives. Then you aren't really a victim of censorship at all, you just thought you experienced that. Makes sense of a sort, I suppose. Hi Fretslider, Everything is role playing, I made the decision to join this forum so have to be prepared to accept whatever happens whilst I am here. If this is how it has played out then so be it. However, there is a fly in the ointment, if you can call it that, we still have free will. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 10:44:12 GMT -5
Freedom of will is an illusion born out of human arrogance.
Perhaps I should start a new thread on the subject in Deep Thought.
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Post by mouse on May 20, 2017 11:36:48 GMT -5
he hasn't insinuated anything as far as i can see no one has asked you to stop posting, Hi Mouse, When Fretslider says that he smells a burning martyr, what do you think that is? And he has put forward other such remarks. You must be skimming over them. no I saw them and understood exactly what he meant not as insinuations though but as comments ... but they are indications or comments or references on the attempts to play victim given the tone of some of the posts |
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Post by mouse on May 20, 2017 12:57:15 GMT -5
That's NOT an attack, Lassie, it's a little bit of sarcasm. When Fret "attacks" you don't have to wonder - he makes it clear. Don't be so touchy. Hi Dex, I know, and that is how I am taking it. I even asked him if he was trying to compete with Kronks with his witty replied. Mouse has chosen to make an issue out of it. All is well.!!! what ? all I take issue with your continual reinterpretations of the meanings of words and choosing to put your own interpretations on what other poster write... without a commonality of the meanings of words we enter verbal anarchy .. where every one can interpretate words and sentences as they tthink fit very much an Alice in Wonderland world .. and I find it strange that you expect what you write to be acepted without question as being fact.. and yet you will not accept what others write as fact even when they bring documentation etc ... that is a very one way street and totally arrogant and its very unrealistic to expect that grown adults will accept that sort of manipulation SL wrote """You are labeling my posts as being mind games. I don't..!!! And you are asking me to cease from that, which means in my book, thst I have to stop posting, that is what it amounts to.""" and that posting[above] makes your irrationality with words very obvious.. you continually say things such as ""in my book that means xyz"" Fret did not say or imply that you should stop posting nor do his words amount to asking you to stop posting....he suggested you stop playing games...just because in your book you choose to make it mean some thing not intended is no excuse for acusing him of some thing he didn't write or infer insisting that in your book[again]a Christian being born again.. beginning life anew etc means reincarnation .. when it actually means nothing of the sort,, |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2017 13:01:03 GMT -5
Freedom of will is an illusion born out of human arrogance. Perhaps I should start a new thread on the subject in Deep Thought. I would be interested in hearing your arguement against free will. |
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Post by mouse on May 20, 2017 13:01:45 GMT -5
are you serious Fret.?. I know nothing about star wars ... but if they are names from star wars.. what on earth are they doing in a supposedly serious post about ECK or lenny or what ever...so who is pulling whose lower limb In Star Wars there are characters like Obi Wan Canobe, Darth Vader, Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Chewbacca etc The names seemed right out of that film! ah right,, I gedit now |
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Post by men an tol on May 20, 2017 15:08:50 GMT -5
Freedom of will is an illusion born out of human arrogance. Perhaps I should start a new thread on the subject in Deep Thought. Mike, personally I think it would be an interesting exchange. I also think that it could quite easily get off track and become relatively contentious, mainly because such a dialog must be based on some understandings or reaching some type of common ground. For example, we as social beings make decisions that are based to a large degree on biologically driven foundations. That is, decisions that are primarily motor driven prior to reaching a level of actual decision making. Jerking one’s hand back from a received bee sting would be a motor driven reaction (not a decision), while staying away from bees would be more like a decision. Of this latter area, how much of this is actual decision and how much is biologically driven depends on who is driving the bus. What drives that actual decision making is also debatable. Those who are determinists believe that whatever happens is predetermined by past results. That is, if all that has happened before is known (and that is an impossibility) we could predict with absolute accuracy all that is happening and free will is therefore nonexistent. Even so we can only make decisions within the attributes of our species and we can only gather information through our senses which are limited, so then our decision making is limited. While I believe that free will exists, I also believe that its constrained and limited by a number of factors (not the least of those being society) and that few people actually use it. |
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