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Post by beth on Mar 5, 2017 22:34:50 GMT -5
Intelligent discussion, please. Flames are discouraged.
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Post by beth on Mar 5, 2017 22:52:57 GMT -5
Some Medical Reasons for Abortion Chicken Pox During Pregnancy: If you develop a serious viral disease like chicken pox during your pregnancy, then you might need an abortion urgently. The chicken pox virus remains in your body for 3 months and can infect your baby too. Cancer: If you are diagnosed with cancer during your pregnancy, then it is better to go for a medical termination of pregnancy. Cancer needs urgent treatment and the harsh chemicals of chemotherapy can pose a danger to the baby. If a woman waits for the baby to be born when she is diagnosed with cancer, it might be fatal for her. Birth Defects: An ultrasound scan or amniocentesis can tell you if the child has any serious birth defects like the Down's syndrome or cerebral palsy. In such cases, you may choose to have an abortion instead of letting the child suffer for whole life. Impending Miscarriage: In some cases the mother has a weak womb and the doctor is sure that the pregnancy will end up with a miscarriage. In such cases an abortion is necessary to avoid any medical emergencies. Sexually Transmitted Diseases: If the expectant mother is diagnosed with sexually transmitted diseases like HIV or syphilis, then there is high probability that the baby too might be infected. In such cases it is better get an abortion because you cannot be sure whether the baby will be infected or not. Diabetic Mother: If the mother has very severe diabetes, her blood sugar levels might affect the baby's development. The doctor may say that you need an abortion if your diabetes is out of control. High Thyroid: If the mother has malfunctioning thyroid, the baby's brain development is directly affected. So if the mother's thyroid hormone is not under control, an abortion might be necessary. These are some of the medical reasons that make abortion necessary. Do you know any other medical conditions that can make a woman need abortion? Read more at: www.boldsky.com/pregnancy-parenting/basics/2013/need-necessary-abortion-032182.html |
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Post by mouse on Mar 6, 2017 5:25:14 GMT -5
apart from the sound medical reasons of having an abhortion ...and I would add alchol and drug aditction to the list both of which have and can have disasterous effects on the unborn both mentally and physically
theres also rape and the mental levels of the mother which should be taken into account
it should be the mothers choice...100% or the decision of the mother guardian
given that there are rules set in place as to when legal abortion can take place ..it becomes nothing more than emotional claptrap to talk about murder of the unborn ...because its not murder or any where near murder to carry out an abortion when acting within the legal time frames....
aborting what cannot live and breathe indepently out side the womb cannot be termed murder..
.I really would like some of the rabid anti abortion suporters to spend some time in maternity.. mental hospitals and homes for the physically disabeled the so they can see exactly the results their anti abortion stance produces....the living results so very often kept well out of the public eye by institutions or by families who cannot or will not or cannot afford to look after the mentally and physically disabled results of making women bear babies..who will never ever have a real life away from pain and confussion
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 6, 2017 9:30:23 GMT -5
Some Medical Reasons for Abortion Chicken Pox During Pregnancy: If you develop a serious viral disease like chicken pox during your pregnancy, then you might need an abortion urgently. The chicken pox virus remains in your body for 3 months and can infect your baby too. Cancer: If you are diagnosed with cancer during your pregnancy, then it is better to go for a medical termination of pregnancy. Cancer needs urgent treatment and the harsh chemicals of chemotherapy can pose a danger to the baby. If a woman waits for the baby to be born when she is diagnosed with cancer, it might be fatal for her. Birth Defects: An ultrasound scan or amniocentesis can tell you if the child has any serious birth defects like the Down's syndrome or cerebral palsy. In such cases, you may choose to have an abortion instead of letting the child suffer for whole life. Impending Miscarriage: In some cases the mother has a weak womb and the doctor is sure that the pregnancy will end up with a miscarriage. In such cases an abortion is necessary to avoid any medical emergencies. Sexually Transmitted Diseases: If the expectant mother is diagnosed with sexually transmitted diseases like HIV or syphilis, then there is high probability that the baby too might be infected. In such cases it is better get an abortion because you cannot be sure whether the baby will be infected or not. Diabetic Mother: If the mother has very severe diabetes, her blood sugar levels might affect the baby's development. The doctor may say that you need an abortion if your diabetes is out of control. High Thyroid: If the mother has malfunctioning thyroid, the baby's brain development is directly affected. So if the mother's thyroid hormone is not under control, an abortion might be necessary. These are some of the medical reasons that make abortion necessary. Do you know any other medical conditions that can make a woman need abortion? Read more at: www.boldsky.com/pregnancy-parenting/basics/2013/need-necessary-abortion-032182.html Specious reasons, at best. If a woman wants to kill her baby, she's going to kill her baby. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 6, 2017 9:31:31 GMT -5
Intelligent discussion, please. Flames are discouraged. Why? What's the point? There's no intelligent defense of infanticide, other than convenience. |
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Post by beth on Mar 6, 2017 9:35:21 GMT -5
Intelligent discussion, please. Flames are discouraged. Why? What's the point? There's no intelligent defense of infanticide, other than convenience. You're totally ignoring the top post and Mouse's post. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 6, 2017 10:55:55 GMT -5
You're totally ignoring the top post and Mouse's post. I addressed that, separately. Pro-abortion is pro-death. |
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Post by Dex on Mar 6, 2017 11:03:46 GMT -5
You're totally ignoring the top post and Mouse's post. I addressed that, separately. Pro-abortion is pro-death. I am not pro-abortion, but there are exceptions. That's usually when there are reasons that have to do with the health of the mother or the child. I don't think anybody is "Pro-abortion" unless they are warped. |
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Post by ladylinda on Mar 6, 2017 11:57:55 GMT -5
I totally agree that the majority of abortions are done for selfish reasons.
On the other hand, I firmly believe that if the mother's life is in danger or if the pregnancy results from rape or incest then there is a legitimate right to abort the child. It's self-defence in those cases.
I do NOT support abortion for genetic defects; our eldest child was born with genetic defects and during my pregnancy the doctor advised me to have a termination. Mike said he would stand by whatever decision I made and I decided to keep my child. He will be 17 years old this year and though he is certainly a challenge I am glad that I chose life over death.
Camille Paglia is a feminist who freely admits that abortion IS infanticide and who routinely disses her feminista sistas for being too dishonest or squeamish to admit that fact.
Now I still believe in the cases I mentioned there should be a right to abortion.
But abortion for 'social reasons' - the overwhelming MAJORITY of abortions - is just despicable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 12:49:20 GMT -5
I totally agree that the majority of abortions are done for selfish reasons. On the other hand, I firmly believe that if the mother's life is in danger or if the pregnancy results from rape or incest then there is a legitimate right to abort the child. It's self-defence in those cases. I do NOT support abortion for genetic defects; our eldest child was born with genetic defects and during my pregnancy the doctor advised me to have a termination. Mike said he would stand by whatever decision I made and I decided to keep my child. He will be 17 years old this year and though he is certainly a challenge I am glad that I chose life over death. Camille Paglia is a feminist who freely admits that abortion IS infanticide and who routinely disses her feminista sistas for being too dishonest or squeamish to admit that fact. Now I still believe in the cases I mentioned there should be a right to abortion. But abortion for 'social reasons' - the overwhelming MAJORITY of abortions - is just despicable. so the unborn child receives the death penalty because of rape or incest? I don't buy into that arguement. |
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Post by beth on Mar 6, 2017 13:10:06 GMT -5
You're totally ignoring the top post and Mouse's post. I addressed that, separately. Pro-abortion is pro-death. There's a big difference between pro-abortion and legal-abortion where there is good reason. When I was a young married years ago, I had a friend who was overjoyed to find she was pregnant with her 3rd child, even though she had been diagnosed a few weeks earlier with a brain tumor. The tumor had been judged operable, but her doctor couldn't guarantee the pregnancy would not be interrupted. So, she and her husband decided to put off the surgery until after the child was born. During the pregnancy there were complications. The baby had health issues that meant he might not survive ... or if he did, his life expectancy would be short .. and still they chose to let things go full term. The delivery was cesarean to give the baby every chance ... and yet, he only lived 2 days. Grace, my friend, did not recover consciousness and died 6 hours after the birth of a stroke caused by the brain tumor complicated by the pregnancy. I can give 3 other situations that I believe would have fully justified early term abortion. So, even though I agree with you that a casual attitude toward abortion for social/convenience reasons should not be legal, there ARE solid reasons to allow abortion when the mother's life is at stake. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 6, 2017 13:17:10 GMT -5
a casual attitude toward abortion for social/convenience reasons should not be legal, there ARE solid reasons to allow abortion when the mother's life is at stake. That was true before Roe v. Wade, a decision morally equivalent to Dred Scott v. Sandford. |
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Post by beth on Mar 6, 2017 13:30:13 GMT -5
a casual attitude toward abortion for social/convenience reasons should not be legal, there ARE solid reasons to allow abortion when the mother's life is at stake. That was true before Roe v. Wade, a decision morally equivalent to Dred Scott v. Sandford. If the law is changed, the results will be a worse situation than exists. It won't create more caution or acceptance among the women who find them-selves pregnant by mistake or carelessness and want a way out of the situation. It will create more amateur, back-room abortions. |
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Post by josephdphillips on Mar 6, 2017 13:40:39 GMT -5
It will create more amateur, back-room abortions. The number of abortions prevented would exceed the number of botched abortions. Thousands of lives would be saved. |
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