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Jan 5, 2017 8:29:07 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 5, 2017 8:29:07 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Everyone dies eventually. I know about Saint Paul's Experience when he was blinded and how he turned his life around. I only mentioned him because he was the reason that I became a Christian. I was talking about past lives.
The reason that you believe the way that you do is frrom reading the Bible, Even though I also have read the Bible my understanding and belief is because I have had actual experiences, that is the difference.
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Jan 5, 2017 8:29:28 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 5, 2017 8:29:28 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Everyone dies eventually. I know about Saint Paul's Experience when he was blinded and how he turned his life around. I only mentioned him because he was the reason that I became a Christian. I was talking about past lives.
The reason that you believe the way that you do is frrom reading the Bible, Even though I also have read the Bible my understanding and belief is because I have had actual experiences, that is the difference.
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Post by mouse on Jan 5, 2017 8:38:55 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Everyone dies eventually. I know about Saint Paul's Experience when he was blinded and how he turned his life around. I only mentioned him because he was the reason that I became a Christian. I was talking about past lives. The reason that you believe the way that you do is from reading the Bible, Even though I also have read the Bible my understanding and belief is because I have had actual experiences, that is the difference. your difference ..not mine and not a generally accepted difference
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Post by mouse on Jan 5, 2017 9:04:29 GMT -5
it was Iran in recent times who coined the pushing Israel into the sea..i can think of nowhere in the bible are the Jews threatened with being pushed into the sea...actually quite the opposite....next time destruction will be by fire..not water Hi Mouse, that is how they have decided to interpret it now, because they evidently don't believe in reincarnation. They have to find a reason and that is what they have opted to do. It doesn't mean it is the correct interpretation. Who was it that Jesus was talking to, who is dead as far as this world is concerned. It has been around 50 years ago since I last studied the Bible so ofcourse my memory is rather vague. Being born again means exactly that, a new birh If I have experienced many past lives then it has to be. In one of my past lives I was the Centurion that looked after Saint Paul when he was imprisoned. That is when I became a Christian. Being pushed into the sea is an expression it is not necessarily meant to be taken literarally but it means at some point in time things are not going to go well for them. As I said before I read it around 50 years ago. the Bible and its interpretations I use the King James Bible...the translations are imo the nearest to the original writings the English language is used beautifully and English has words to ezplain the differences of situations ...and thus imo the best translation there is available ..the modern versions are bland and childish in comparison Jesus for eg..is not reffered to as a mortal reincarnation of God...its all very specific...Jesus is reffered to as being begotton NOT created when he died on the cross the word used it he is dead...and when the tomb is found empty and met on the road..again the term used is specific he is reffered to as being risen from the dead[not born again]but dead and then resurrected from death and the tomb.. some of the earliest Christian writings from early Roman Christians describe those accepting a Christian beliefe and life style describe the converts ""AS being born again""...not being born again...but AS BEING BORN AGAIN....that AS being inserted gives a totally different meaning I don't have a link to those writings ...and I remember the discussion very well indeed..leading it was a friend of the family who was also a noted theologon and scholar who could read the original Latin and Greek works and was a most interesting man
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Post by ladylinda on Jan 5, 2017 15:48:29 GMT -5
The Bible NOWHERE mentions or approves of reincarnation. That is an Eastern concept and it's NOT what the Bible says.
Actually what the Bible says is that when we die we die until the Day of Resurrection.
What Eckists say has nothing to do with the Bible or Christianity.
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Post by ladylinda on Jan 5, 2017 15:49:59 GMT -5
Cedars of Lebanon are mentioned in the Bible. I'm actually very interested in Biblical prophecy but it doesn't actually say in the Bible that Israel will be pushed into the sea. In fact, at the End Times, to quote Revelation, there will be 'no more sea.' Have you read Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth, Lin? I read that when I was a teen in high school. Pretty impressive. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late,_Great_Planet_Earth I have read it, yes, though I find some of it compelling and others a bit more 'special pleading' I might start posting some books that I've found particularly impressive in terms of Bible prophecy.
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Jan 5, 2017 19:53:54 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 5, 2017 19:53:54 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, Everyone dies eventually. I know about Saint Paul's Experience when he was blinded and how he turned his life around. I only mentioned him because he was the reason that I became a Christian. I was talking about past lives. The reason that you believe the way that you do is from reading the Bible, Even though I also have read the Bible my understanding and belief is because I have had actual experiences, that is the difference. your difference ..not mine and not a generally accepted difference Hi Mouse, There are thousands of people who believe in reincarnation if not millions by now. I don't think they would have believed that had each person not been given the proof that it was true. Any other thinking has been misinterpreted. To each His/Her own.!!!
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Jan 5, 2017 20:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 5, 2017 20:04:28 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, that is how they have decided to interpret it now, because they evidently don't believe in reincarnation. They have to find a reason and that is what they have opted to do. It doesn't mean it is the correct interpretation. Who was it that Jesus was talking to, who is dead as far as this world is concerned. It has been around 50 years ago since I last studied the Bible so ofcourse my memory is rather vague. Being born again means exactly that, a new birh If I have experienced many past lives then it has to be. In one of my past lives I was the Centurion that looked after Saint Paul when he was imprisoned. That is when I became a Christian. Being pushed into the sea is an expression it is not necessarily meant to be taken literarally but it means at some point in time things are not going to go well for them. As I said before I read it around 50 years ago. the Bible and its interpretations I use the King James Bible...the translations are imo the nearest to the original writings the English language is used beautifully and English has words to ezplain the differences of situations ...and thus imo the best translation there is available ..the modern versions are bland and childish in comparison Jesus for eg..is not reffered to as a mortal reincarnation of God...its all very specific...Jesus is reffered to as being begotton NOT created when he died on the cross the word used it he is dead...and when the tomb is found empty and met on the road..again the term used is specific he is reffered to as being risen from the dead[not born again]but dead and then resurrected from death and the tomb.. some of the earliest Christian writings from early Roman Christians describe those accepting a Christian beliefe and life style describe the converts ""AS being born again""...not being born again...but AS BEING BORN AGAIN....that AS being inserted gives a totally different meaning I don't have a link to those writings ...and I remember the discussion very well indeed..leading it was a friend of the family who was also a noted theologon and scholar who could read the original Latin and Greek works and was a most interesting man
Hi Mouse, that was a supernatural event and therefore I agree with that conclusion.The Bible is full of supernatural events and I believe them all.
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Post by mouse on Jan 6, 2017 5:10:33 GMT -5
your difference ..not mine and not a generally accepted difference Hi Mouse, There are thousands of people who believe in reincarnation if not millions by now. I don't think they would have believed that had each person not been given the proof that it was true. Any other thinking has been misinterpretated. To each His/Her own.!!! but we are not discussing the realities or not of reincarnation.... I thought we were discussing the Christian concept of "" being born again""" which you wrongly termed reincarnation as apposed to the non literal """being born again"" a fresh start/wiping the slate clean its no use altering the meanings of words ..as its I'm[possible to have any sort of discussion when the boundries are constantly being moved the meanings of words are not moveable ...or to each their own..words mean what the words mean...
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Post by mouse on Jan 6, 2017 5:17:37 GMT -5
your difference ..not mine and not a generally accepted difference Hi Mouse, There are thousands of people who believe in reincarnation if not millions by now. I don't think they would have believed that had each person not been given the proof that it was true. Any other thinking has been misinterpretated. To each His/Her own.!!! thousands or millions of peoples beliving some thing means nothing millions of people believed the Pope was infallible...yet no pope has as yet been infallible...nor could any pope be infallible....and many of those millions were under a delusion simply because the meaning of the word had been wrong the infallibility was related only to religious matters not as many had come to believe on ALL matters this is not a swipe at the RC church..just an instance of a word being misused
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Post by mouse on Jan 6, 2017 5:21:42 GMT -5
the Bible and its interpretations I use the King James Bible...the translations are imo the nearest to the original writings the English language is used beautifully and English has words to ezplain the differences of situations ...and thus imo the best translation there is available ..the modern versions are bland and childish in comparison Jesus for eg..is not reffered to as a mortal reincarnation of God...its all very specific...Jesus is reffered to as being begotton NOT created when he died on the cross the word used it he is dead...and when the tomb is found empty and met on the road..again the term used is specific he is reffered to as being risen from the dead[not born again]but dead and then resurrected from death and the tomb.. some of the earliest Christian writings from early Roman Christians describe those accepting a Christian beliefe and life style describe the converts ""AS being born again""...not being born again...but AS BEING BORN AGAIN....that AS being inserted gives a totally different meaning I don't have a link to those writings ...and I remember the discussion very well indeed..leading it was a friend of the family who was also a noted theologon and scholar who could read the original Latin and Greek works and was a most interesting man
Hi Mouse, that was a supernatural event and therefore I agree with that conclusion.The Bible is full of supernatural events and I believe them all. so you belive something simply because it is written in the Bible..strewth there are many things in the bible wich can be explained quite logically ..things that we now know have no mystery as time and education /knowledge has moved on I guess it depends what you require from life..fact or fiction
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Jan 6, 2017 7:55:40 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 6, 2017 7:55:40 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, There are thousands of people who believe in reincarnation if not millions by now. I don't think they would have believed that had each person not been given the proof that it was true. Any other thinking has been misinterpreted. To each His/Her own.!!! but we are not discussing the realities or not of reincarnation.... I thought we were discussing the Christian concept of "" being born again""" which you wrongly termed reincarnation as apposed to the non literal """being born again"" a fresh start/wiping the slate clean its no use altering the meanings of words ..as its I'm[possible to have any sort of discussion when the boundries are constantly being moved the meanings of words are not moveable ...or to each their own..words mean what the words mean... Hi Mouse, I disagree with you on that, as sayings can be misinterpreted, that is quite easily done. The fact that so many people who have died and been brought back to life have told stories of having been to a place and met a being who emanates nothing but love and has told that person that it is not their time yet and they must go back into the body. There are books upon books about these kind of experiences. There are too many people all saying the same thing for it to be untrue. If you choose not to believe then that is your prerogative. In ECKANKAR this is known as Soul travel ( out of the body experiences.)
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Jan 6, 2017 8:16:02 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 6, 2017 8:16:02 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, I believe these miraculous happenings because I believe in miracles. I have had two of my own. Besides that, the experiences I have had for a good deal of my life tells me that anything is possible. Those who think otherwise are blocking any chance of them having similar experiences. What a shame.!!!
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Jan 6, 2017 8:25:34 GMT -5
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Post by Scottish Lassie on Jan 6, 2017 8:25:34 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, In one of your posts you say that a word means what it says. Then in another post you say that it can be misconstrued, such as the Pope being thought to be infallible. Very strange.!!!
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Post by mouse on Jan 6, 2017 9:08:03 GMT -5
Hi Mouse, In one of your posts you say that a word means what it says. Then in another post you say that it can be misconstrued, such as the Pope being thought to be infallible. Very strange.!!! no I said nothing of the sort....I commented on the widespread idea idea that the Pope is infallible when actually the infallibility of a pope only goes as far as the spiritual I was talking about words being mis used and used the pope as an example of misue
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